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Bend residents, visitors react warily to Gov. Brown’s new outdoor mask requirement

(Update: Adding new video, comments)

'I think people getting vaccinated is really going to be the thing that helps us'

BEND, Ore. (KTVZ) — People out and about in Bend's Old Mill District on Tuesday shared their opinions about Gov. Kate Brown's announcement of a new statewide outdoor mask requirement.

Brown said the purpose of the mandate is to help stop the spread of the highly contagious delta variant that has pushed the number of hospitalized COVID-19 patients to a record 1,000 Tuesday.

One Bend resident and local bartender says she doesn't think wearing masks outdoors will work.

"I don't necessarily think a lot of people are going to listen to that," Isabelle Katania said. "I think people getting vaccinated is really going to be the thing that helps us."

Katania shared that working as a bartender, she is still susceptible to catching COVID, whether or not the customers are wearing masks.

"I'm still picking up the glasses, and people put their mouths on them," Katania said.

Peter Bethel, who is visiting Bend for a short while, said it's not the best approach for someone in his situation.

"I'm double vaccinated, and I'm very happy to wear a mask indoors, where I think there's a small but meaningful chance of transmission," Bethel said. "Outside, with being double vaccinated, I think it's ridiculous to have to wear a mask unless you're in very close proximity to people."

Barb Faxlanger said while she does support masks worn indoors, she doesn't think an outdoor mask requirement is the answer to the problem.

"Outdoors, I think we’re okay not masking," she said. "With strangers though, I’ll keep my distance."

Here's the governor's full announcement:

Effective Friday, August 27, masks will be required in most public outdoor settings, including large outdoor events, where physical distancing is not possible, and regardless of vaccination status. The Oregon Health Authority (OHA) also strongly recommends masking for outdoor gatherings at private residences, when individuals from different households do not consistently maintain physical distance.

“The Delta variant is spreading fast and wide, throwing our state into a level of crisis we have not yet seen in the pandemic. Cases and hospitalizations are at a record high,” Brown said “Masks are a quick and simple tool we can immediately deploy to protect ourselves and our families, and quickly help stop further spread of COVID-19.

“The Delta variant is much more contagious than previous variants we’ve seen, and it has dramatically increased the amount of virus in our communities. Masks have proven to be effective at bringing case counts down, and are a necessary measure right now, even in some outdoor settings, to help fight COVID and protect one another.”

Under the governor’s direction, the OHA rule will require masks for all individuals — regardless of vaccination status — in outdoor settings in which individuals from different households are unable to consistently maintain physical distance.

The rule does not apply to fleeting encounters, such as two individuals walking by one another on a trail or in a park. While the rule does not apply to outdoor gatherings at private residences, masks are strongly recommended in those settings when individuals from different households do not consistently maintain physical distance.

“It is much easier for people with the Delta variant, compared to people who were sick last year, to infect others around them,” said State Health Officer Dr. Dean Sidelinger. “This is because they have 1,0000 times more virus in their nose – which means that those around them are much more likely to get sick, because this variant behaves so differently.

"We are starting to see instances where cases are clustering around events, like outdoor music festivals, that happen outdoors. Wearing masks in crowded settings – even outdoors – will help slow the spread of COVID-19.”

The rule aligns with the exceptions outlined in the recent statewide indoor mask requirements, and does not apply to:

  • Children under 5 years old;
  • Individuals who are actively eating, drinking, or sleeping — as well as individuals living outdoors, such as persons experiencing houselessness;
  • Persons playing or practicing competitive sports, or engaged in an activity in which it is not feasible to wear a mask — such as swimming;
  • Individuals delivering a speech or performing — such as with outdoor music or theater;
  • Mask requirements for day-to-day operations at K-12 schools are not governed by this rule, and will instead continue to fall under the school mask rule. Outside public events, spectator events, and gatherings of the general public on K-12 school grounds will be subject to the rule. Child care and youth programs will continue to follow existing OHA mask guidance; and
  • In addition, entities subject to the ADA must continue to comply with that law.

The OHA rule will go into effect this Friday; however Oregonians are strongly encouraged to immediately start wearing masks outdoors, as outlined above.

Governor Brown added, “The combination of vaccines and masks is the most powerful way we can fight this latest surge of COVID-19 and save lives. Vaccination continues to be the best way you can protect yourself and your family from the Delta variant, and the most effective way we can help our exhausted nurses and doctors, who are working around the clock to treat Oregonians sick with COVID in our ICUs — the majority of which are unvaccinated individuals. With the full FDA approval of the Pfizer vaccine this week, we have additional reassurance that the vaccines are safe and effective.”

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            1. Since you seem to like to comment on random facts that have nothing to do with the article…

              10 worst states (counting Washington, DC) with the highest unemployment rates.

              Arizona: 6.6 percent
              Louisiana*: 6.6 percent
              Pennsylvania: 6.6 percent
              Washington, DC: 6.7 percent
              Illinois: 7.1 percent
              Hawaii: 7.3 percent
              New Jersey: 7.3 percent
              California: 7.6 percent
              New Mexico: 7.6 percent
              New York: 7.6 percent
              Nevada: 7.7 percent

              With the exception of Arizona, these states struggling with high unemployment all have Democratic governors (or mayor, in the case of DC). Generally speaking, they had longer and harsher government restrictions on their economies than the top 10 states. And, except for Arizona, all of these bottom-ranking states continued to offer residents expanded payouts to stay on unemployment benefits. (*Louisiana ended the benefits on August 3, but the unemployment rates are for July 2021, before this change took effect).

              1. Nice reality check for the local morons who spend all day here- unemployed- trying to tell the rest of us how to live- while they don’t !

                1. In your mind, the government exists to take care of us.
                  In the conservative mind, the government exists to serve us.
                  You’ve been awful quiet on Taliban Joe abandoning US citizens behind enemy lines, Eric.
                  Now why is that?

              2. how did you possibly leave out Mississippi, Kentucky, Alabama…. and all the others at the top of the list? – haven’t you heard? Fox news is considered entertainment and not to be taken seriously by any reasonable person – it it in the defense documents of every lawsuit they have had to face for lying

              1. I can’t understand why you don’t have enough time under your rock to come up with new material, THING. There can’t be a lot to do under there.

        1. so busy believing every lie that comes your way that you can’t even understand truth when it hits you in the face – calling someone a maggot because they say something truthful that you don’t like will not help you with the problems you have

      1. Not really concerned if the NRA event was cancelled. More concerning due to what many Americans believe is an abdication of law enforcement guns sales for June alone were 1.3mil. And a recent poll of 30k people believe we are in a “cold” civil war.

      2. As a liberal I also have to say the “mandate” is too broad. But I’m also not itching to stand shoulder to shoulder with strangers at Dave Mathews. Remember when they closed the playgrounds with caution tape? Hah yeah didn’t follow that rule either. Just get vaccinated and wear the mask. I’m looking at you kevista

      1. Must just be a coincidence that South Dakota’s coronavirus cases have jumped by more than 300 per cent, in two weeks, following the famous Sturgis Motorcycle Rally….because masks and social distancing don’t work, amiright?

        1. I wonder what happened after the Seahawks game in Seattle? Oh, that’s right, the CDC doesn’t recommend testing vaccinated people for covid. You think that might cook the numbers?

            1. Ha ha.

              These goofballs don’t research stuff unless it’s 2A rights or what their Trump savior says they should feel or say. They just type type type.

              I mean….the grammar is decent. Punctuation, good. Run-on sentences, nope. But still…there’s the stupid. It’s almost as if….there’s an education there somewhere just wanting to show itself, but it’s being held back by something dark…and dumb.

        2. President Obama and his friends didn’t bother for his birthday party. Congresswoman Pelosi and her friends didn’t bother for their wine dinner.

          What word would you use to describe that behavior?

            1. So that is why several non-vaccinated people attended the event? No, obama is a hypocrite like Pelosi, moron Chicago mayor, Washington governor, California gov. and most other dems.

              1. Please provide proof of the unvaxxed who attended. Even though it was scaled back, it was still held outdoors and a negative test was required before entrance.

        3. 300% of what? You sound like the media. Child covid mortalities up 300%. There was 1 now there’s 3. that’s 300%. 5 times more likely. 5 times more than what? Numbers boy! Give numbers! Percentages are a side step of the factual data

    1. I agree NormalGuy. I won’t wear a mask outside, anywhere, anytime. Science has shown masks don’t work. But, hey, let the little liberal sheep march along.

    2. Oh Looky here- after a few posts- Lerten has started to block my comments- not a single violation of the TOS- users beware, the Mod is corrupt and biased.

      1. If I were the moderator I would have banned you permanently a long time ago. I think Barney is doing a great job, but banning you would be a definite improvement.

        1. Hmmm.. is this harassment/bullying? I’m sure bghw would say yes. Though it has no insults, no threats, just what he would have done in my shoes. Of course, bhgw has “demanded” that many others, including you be silenced or banned for saying/doing things he says/does all the time. Like I told all of you, I’m no robot and judgment calls are exactly what they say. But please, eric – and everyone – be an example, and help make this a better, less mean place.

          1. Your “new” standards have yet to be defined- whatever they are- you are once again tainting the site with your personal bias and prejudices… please stop !

            1. I posted the NOT-new, but newly enforced Terms of Service YOU and everyone else agreed with when they signed up — want me to post them again? Yes, judgment calls, yours truly will continue. But I know you’re wrong, and will continue to prove it with my judgment calls, which have always had NOTHING to do with which side of the damn fence people are on. With 8,000 comments in 18 months, maybe you’ve had more deleted because you are so … prolific?

              1. “Newly enforced” ? Yeh- and we all know why- cause I filed official complaints and your boss hauled you in and set you straight ! Go ahead- deny the facts- but I’ve been vocal enough that everyone watched this play out. So yeh folks… yer welcome !

                1. Totally untrue, of course. I have not been contacted by any of my supervisors to change anything. I asked some questions and came to this on my own. No meetings with supervisors, etc.
                  You have no proof whatsoever.
                  No surprise. No proof. No kidding. But very typical.

                2. Go ahead deny the facts ! Here’s a fact- you would have never made the change if I hadn’t reported it… you were happy to just let your little gang of thugs run wild in the streets harassing anyone challenging Brown’s narrative ! The proof is in the pudding !

  1. Lots won’t like this, but for crying out loud just wear a mask. It truly is the least you can do, weighs less than 1/3 of an ounce and just might ensure you’re alive 6 weeks from now.

            1. Or the same amount of studies showing the ineffectiveness and the unintended consequences of destroying your natural immune system. I would rather believe the people who make the darn things. When someone makes a product and says you should t use it for this I tend to believe them.

                1. I can’t imagine how it must be for people who wear masks for a living. Doctors, nurses, construction workers… All of them have obviously been destroyed by mask wearing.

        1. Are you dense? Look into what people that work around mold have to deal with. I’m fed up with you pushing this narrative. You are the cancer in this world

          1. Right, or what surgeons, nurses, emergency room docs, virologists, dentists, orthodontists or any other medical professionals have to deal with, daily. But let’s go with your mold reasoning. Seems solid.

            Let’s try this…

            Take a Republican (the virus). Place him in a full size, lifted Ford pickup truck (we’ll call this tidy little package saliva, snot, or whoever form of crap coronavirus typically is transmitted in, that’s the mode of operation here….just like a Republican in a pickup truck).

            Now….let’s take some cement barrier columns outside your average Walmart. We’ll call these columns a “mask”, for the sake of argument.

            Surely, the columns won’t protect against the overweight Republican entering Wal-Mart by himself. Most moderately educated people know this. But if the Republican is only able to enter the Walmart while he’s in his pickup truck, suddenly the cement columns turn out to be pretty effective. That is how masks work. That’s why there was no flu season last winter. That’s why COVID numbers fall when most of us just try to do the correct thing.

            But you’re smart. So….

              1. This says Doctors working in long term care facilities – Not Doctors as a whole.

                These medical professionals are much less likely than the group as a whole.

                1. Semantics, point is there are people of literally all walks of life including a high percentage of healthcare workers that choose to not vaccinate. It is nobody’s business to judge, including the people posting on this board. What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger is more true in this scenario than ever.

            1. FLU and COVID are very similar. It’s a virus that attacks the respiratory system. It is spread and caught exactly the same way,. So your masking to cure the flu virus but not the covid virus doesn’t hold water.

      1. They worn way better than the GOP at containing the virus. Now if we could just come up with a vaccine for stupid you would be at the front of the line

    1. Sunny, masks offer limited protection to those wearing them. The benefit is to others sharing our space by limiting aerosols generated from respiration and speech.

            1. Don’t appreciate the multiple posts on a busy day when I don’t have time to fact check every thing that comes down, if others verify or dispute this please advise, but not allowing dozen posts of same link.

              1. Or are just afraid of the people being exposed to the truth. I want people to see it and for the info to not be buried in all the Nazi socialists of Bend garbage comments. Be prepared to start saying HAIL GOVENOR BROWN! I thought Trump was supposed to be Nazi.

              2. Be thankful you have a job to be “busy” at ! There are thousands who have lost their businesses to BS you’ve promoted and peddled all year ! Yer now all in for another phase- round of closures- lock-downs- and shutdowns… why don’t you start donating your whole salary and try your hand at financial insecurity for awhile !!!

              1. You should be banned for flooding this site day in and out with your “woe-is-me… I have underlying conditions that affect me but no-one else… so get the chemical jab so I don’t get sick” BS !

                1. Careful. I have revisited NPG’s comment moderation standards, which DON’T allow comments that “encourage harassment or bullying.” And you know you bully me/others more than anyone else here.
                  So more of yours will probably be gone if you cannot learn to be civil. Feel free to file another (?) complaint with whoever you wish, the evidence, as you’d say, “is there in the archives.”

                2. Just what “bullying” terms have I used ? Present your facts- your position- or back off. You do this all the time- false accusations- no details- no violation of the TOS !

                3. A bullying post denying bullying. Why am I not surprised. I will try very hard to no longer respond to people who lack basic civility and respect.

                4. Please point out any of my posts that are even remotely what you describe. Yes, I’ve revealed I have UC. But the only one targeting, twisting and using that info for any purpose is you, against me. With every post you reveal how an inferiority complex can create the most unforgivable of all things, a bully. No basic decency from you. You are just a sack full of petty prejudices and knee jerk nasty.

                5. If this back-and-forth continues, at some point both of you will see posts deleted. Doubt either of you are convincing the other of a single thing. Thank you. (And no, I’m NOT going to pay any attention to who ‘started it’ or who gets the last word. Those are kindergarten rules…. not ours.)

              2. They also banned the videos stating the virus was leaked from the wuhan lab. Oops, guess that “misinformation “ turned out to be true. No big deal though…

            2. “LifeSiteNews (or simply LifeSite) is a Canadian Catholic far-right anti-abortion advocacy and news publication. LifeSiteNews has published misleading information and conspiracy theories, and in 2021, was banned from some social media platforms for spreading COVID-19 misinformation.”

              1. Good thing it has links to the actual studies so you can read it and think for yourself. CNN and the other trash MSM (Fox included) just want you to consume there filth and close your mind. They sell fear and death. If it bleeds it leads.

              2. Dr. Anthony Fauci told you all masks weren’t necessary- Pelosi invited the world to Chinatown in February of 2020 for Chinese New Year- De-Blasio in New York told his citizens to “go about your lives- don’t worry about no virus”… were those all conspiracies also ?

            3. As usual, because you brain trusts are not scientists, a quick perusal of the very first study cited shows that the author of the article you listed has problems comprehending basic English.

        1. Well gee whiz and here I thought the claim was masks were so restrictive of air flow that they caused you to be poisoned from your own carbon dioxide. Which is it guys?

          1. Why can’t that be a personal affliction Martha ? Why must your ‘Merikans all fit in the same pigeon holes of your making ??? Do you really understand how America works ? Individual freedom- personal rights- civil liberties ???

      1. CDC confirmed today- the vaccines wear off in months- 30% of cases in LA Kounty are breakthrough… this is your worst nightmare that I’ve warned you about ! Bully that !!!

  2. She tried it once and got away with it. What did you think she was going to do with that power? Wake up people. This doesn’t stop with masks and vaccine mandates whatsoever. From here to them setting up camps for unvaccinated is actually a very short distance. Ah how freedom goes away quickly when the population lays down.

          1. Hey Martha did you figure out what the number 1 co morbidity is dear? Should we close down gyms again? Smart move huh?…. Might want to stop hammering that Pepsi.

    1. Martha will cave ! kuya will buckle at the knees !! fatheadedchild will willfully submit !!! Neverdumper ??? Still hiding in the closet with a box of twinkies !!!

      1. “Bitch” ??? Did he say “Bitch” ??? Nice work Lerten… That word is unfit for prime-time TV- yet you allow it because it’s used as a verb ??? Ahhhhmaaazing !

        1. Barney whines about being bullied- yet allows the terminology here to resemble a high school bathroom wall ! Like I said before… Ahhhmaaazing !

    1. As others have said, seems like the biggest cry babies literally don’t live here any more and just come here, what, to troll people?

      You don’t even live here you pathetic fool. Good riddance, you’re not missed!

      1. But that won’t help anyone who is immuno-compromised- the data don’t lie ! The vaccines guarantee nothing if you have underlying conditions.

          1. Weren’t you the one earlier this morning blowing a gasket over a false accusation that I associated “underlying conditions” with “terminal illness”- your whole “well they’re gonna die anyway” claim ? You’ve now completely flip-flopped ! So clarify- those with underlying conditions do or do not have a terminal illness ! I never said they did- but you wanted to threaten me with a ban ! Complete nutso !

    1. Or too many dumbass Trumpers are not getting vaccinated and spreading the virus like wildfire, and since you cannot tell who is or is not vaccinated, mask up! Numbers keep saying that the vast majority of hospitalizations are non-vaccinated people. If you dumbass would stop clogging up our hospital systems, then we can get back to a normal life.

      1. Hey Barney? Why did you not ask Captain Obvious for a credible link to support this statement?

        Do you not see your own pattern of bias?

        I have read numerous articles that suggest many demographics in large cities such as minorities and democrats have a large percentage of unvaccinated people.

        Why do you allow comments that suggest only Trump supporters or republicans have not received the vaccine.

          1. Barney. Ktvz spreads fake covid crap daily. How many stories from cdc experts have changed opinions and mandates etc. This is a power grab. How many Deschutes County citizens have died of Covid. ??? You make it sound like hundreds or thousands. It’s like less than 90 in almost 2 years. Like 0.04%. And now we need to wear masks outside?? You people are freaking brainwashed. Kuya and stoner can go hide in a basement and spoon until it ends. But guess what. There are a lot of people sone with it and are going to live our lives without fear.

          2. “an opinion” ? Isn’t that what the comments section is for ??? I find your “hindsight” drivel to be especially annoying- not based on leadership and science at all- why do you get special treatment ?

        1. Would it really matter? Wack jobs like you just read and absorb data that is spoon fed to you by your like minded wack jobs. But just in case….

          I found this one on Fox News just for you. It explains how the unvaccinated are the majority of the problem of spread now… https://www.foxnews.com/health/covid-19-breakthrough-infections-0-01-cases

          Then there are countless other articles not the web about the profile of unvaccinated, but hard to know which ones you would believe….
          https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/unvaccinated-americans-whiter-more-republican-vaccinated

          But if you just look at the states or areas that have the lowest vaccination rates, they are red states.

          Enjoy.

          1. Captain, Father, and Barney…

            Not sure why you are calling me a wack job but let me give you a little perspective.

            1. I am Republican
            2. I am not a Trump fan. Voted for him over Biden but they are both tools.
            3. I was vaccinated in January. (probably long before any of you.
            4. I wear a mask everywhere I go.
            5. I believe Covid is real, but not the end of the world.
            6. I KNOW that people like you three, that have made this a political issue, and not a medical issue are the biggest problem.

            I will give Barney a slight pass. He is not a journalist but his job does depend on “click” and “comments” he doesn’t even see what he has become but he is nothing but a partisan hack.

            Father and Captain, all you care about on this topic, or any else you bloviate about is making it a “left v. right” issue. YOU are the problem, not the solution.

            1. Barney asked you to provide a link to support your statements. I could provide links to support some of what you say but I won’t because it’s on you. As far as this public health crisis being a political issue that’s exactly what it has become. And if you deny it then you obviously are ignoring what is going on all around our country.

              “Our surveys consistently find that Democrats are much more likely to report having been vaccinated than Republicans, and Republicans are much more likely to say that they definitely do not want to get vaccinated.” KFF 7/8/21. Pretty sad.

            2. Well now. Quite a manifest. You accuse me of making everything political yet you fail to mention those many on the other end of the spectrum. Why aren’t you chastising them? Pretty one sided and obviously politically motivated, don’t you think? Using your logic, you demonstrate that YOU are just as much a part of the problem, not the solution.

      2. Timelines are clear… the surge didn’t take off until after the 70% vaccination rates were declared… so what happened- how did kalamity Kate muck this up so bad ?

    1. California- New York- and New jersey lead the tally for deaths, new cases, and deaths per population… all Blue Hoo-Hoo Demokrat strong-holds for decades !!!

    1. It’s not “homeless” it’s
      “Houselessness”….is that even a word? Where do they come up with this crap.
      And for the record I read comment that queen Kate haters are stupid, won’t wear mask or get vaccinated. Well I’m vaccinated & wear a mask AND I think Brown is worthless!

  3. Thank you Governor Brown! My family greatly appreciates you making the tough choices and doing what you can to keep Oregonians safe.

    Wearing a little mask is easy. I have no idea why it’s been whined about so much! Grow up people!

      1. Wear 5 masks and stay home? OOOOHH! Brutal. You’re so clever. Good luck when you come down with covid and don’t have access to a hospital bed.

  4. Barney…. Are the “wise ones” on this site spouting the negative about Gov. Brown, and refusing to wear a mask, aware that they are the one’s keeping us sick?

    1. Oh please catch a clue. Liberals like yourself are not smart enough to comment on important issues. Go take your dog for a walk ….. something you may be able to handle.

    2. Ummm- No Dumper ! The wise ones are the ones who told you that the vaxoids are the arrogant super-spreaders… and the CDC confirmed this today !

        1. Timelines don’t care about your statesman post… the fact is- after Brown declared 70% vaccination rates to be successful- she opened the state- not realizing that vaccinated individuals could infect hundreds in a day of frolicking about. The CDC confirmed this today.

      1. It’s amazing how the American psyche has devolved in 20 years. In 2001, about 3000 Americans died on 9/11 causing a change in American society and the course of history. Today, over 600K dead Americans can’t even change minds.

                1. No problem filing a complaint against you at KTVZ. Allowing this to stand is unconscionable.

                2. Refer to my other reply Barney. You have “jumped the shark”

                  To be fair, only a few of us will know what that means.

                3. Complaint left on KTVZ voicemail just now, and I’ll follow up with your GM tomorrow.

                4. I look forward to defending my decision, if need be. It was not put in an offensive manner, as others have done many times regarding Nazi comparisons etc.

              1. Take note- Barney is kicking into over-drive because of the recent influx of conservative voices. He is now kreating his on rules- ignoring the TOS- just a heads up. be patient- carry on !

      1. Hospitals can’t “handle” it because there is no staff. Not because people are pouring into the Hospitals. If they have 5 nurses then they can have a certain number of beds each nurse can monitor. Let’s say the number is 5 beds to each nurse. That’s 25 beds available. If they are full then the Hospitals say they are at 100% capacity.

          1. Nope- because the vaxed are the ones super spreading. The CDC confirmed today- the vax wears off in months… natural immunity has three times the protection ! Arrogant vaxoids are to blame for the surge !

              1. More facts- in a reality check kinda way… “Twice as many people died in 2020 of heart disease (690,8820 as from COVID-19 (345,323). Another 159,150 died from stroke and another 106,106 from diabetes (mostly type 2)” Your skamdemic continues to play second fiddle to underlying conditions- with emphasis on “lying” !

    1. Also from your link:

      Data published by Israel’s Ministry of Health in late July suggested that the Pfizer shot was just 39 percent effective against preventing infection in the country in late June and early July, compared with 95 percent from January to early April. In both periods, however, the shot was MORE THAN 90 PERCENT EFFECTIVE IN PREVENTING SEVERE DISEASE.

      1. Fathers Child – AND while it is not 100% effective – I will gladly take 2/3 effective vs. NOT AT ALL. Curious how some folks are still resistant.

          1. Then go away… you been here yapping about the same BS since this morning. Get a job- take a walk- try and eat right… your UC’s have no impact on my life- deal with it !

            1. Ah! There it is! That degree of annoyance and aggravation that I’ll bet Barney gets when he has to read any of your nonsense. Thanks! You made my day!

  5. Mask mandates would benefit the unvaccinated. Those folks are entitled to the choice of what to do with their bodies. They’ve had months to get a free vaccination. At what point do we let the proverbial chips fall where they may??

    1. Under the Shade tree — perhaps you should ask a medical professional. They are the ones who are burnt out beyond and tired of taking care of the unvaxxed. So the chips may fall – but others will be in line for a negative outcome.

      1. Those same “heroes” of the past 18 months (remember them?) are now being called morons, selfish, killers, idiots, stupid, foolish, terrible human beings, etc., if they make a personal healthcare decision of their own. Not surprising they’re burned out. Shameful.

      2. Perhaps you should look at the OHA data- which clearly demonstrates “no massive surge” in covid related hospitalizations… your link to facts- not hype and hysteria ! Note- the little blue line at the bottom is hospitalized… I thought I might point you in the right direction- you seem hopelessly lost !
        https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/oregon.health.authority.covid.19/viz/OregonHealthAuthorityCOVID-19DataDashboard/COVID-19EPICases

    2. Absolutely! I’m not trying to convince anybody anymore, just doing my best to counter misinformation and clarifying the cherry picked out of context rhetoric.

      1. Why don’t you go get a job instead- you’ve been posting for days on end- nobody gives a hoot what the underlying conditioned say- you got problems the vast majority of us don’t !

  6. Vaccinated – no mask needed, Uncaccinated – take your own risk and don’t get upset when you end up in ICU and nobody cares including the medical staff. It’s that simple.

    1. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.html
      To reduce their risk of becoming infected with the Delta variant and potentially spreading it to others, CDC recommends that fully vaccinated people:

      Wear a mask in public indoor settings if they are in an area of substantial or high transmission.
      Fully vaccinated people might choose to mask regardless of the level of transmission, particularly if they or someone in their household is immunocompromised or at increased risk for severe disease, or if someone in their household is unvaccinated.
      Get tested if experiencing COVID-19 symptoms.
      Isolate if they have tested positive for COVID-19 in the prior 10 days or are experiencing COVID-19 symptoms.
      Get tested 3-5 days after exposure to someone with suspected or confirmed COVID-19 and wear a mask in public indoor settings for 14 days after exposure or until they receive a negative test result.
      Continue to follow any applicable federal, state, local, tribal, or territorial laws, rules, and regulations.

      1. “Recommendations” are “NOT” mandates-rules-or law ! Why must you continue to blatantly misinterpret such a basic human and civil right ? You are promoting division- hate- and prejudice with your constant misguided “opinions” !

    1. You’re attributing your own misleading interpretation of the study. Nowhere in the abstract does it say a single word about posing a threat to patients and I’m quite sure the PPE available to and used religiously by healthcare is highly effective.

      1. Ok, you’re just being obstinate. If I said rabid chickens are running wild in Costco, you would have a heart attack, but vaccinated healthcare workers having 251 times the viral load is no problem? What kind of hippy lettuce have you been smoking? Remember Trump’s “leaners” in the 2016 election….no? Leaners were people who leaned in and quietly said, “Hey, just between you and me, I’m voting for Trump.” Guess how many “leaners” there are in the healthcare field (doctors, paramedics, nurses, etc.) who are not going to get the vaccine and instead are forcing their employers to fire them, leaving all the vaxxed providers(x 251 times the viral load) to take care of you. Those are some scary odds.

        1. And just how is that “viral load” supposed to pose a threat to patients through N95s and the other PPE? Please point out where the study you cited backs up your interpretation of the threat to patients. And give me a link to all those healthcare providers who are forcing their employers to fire them.

    2. How hilarious is this… now even the jabbed- with their jab scar and constant belly-aching about others… are now lumped into the same sinking boat of meaningless mask mandates ! Put it on vaxoid ! You earned it !!!

      1. BGHW. Oh man. Now this is hilarious. All pro lockdown and masks that don’t work, now have to wear them after the jab. Hahaha. Oh just read today Pfizer ceo said expect more variants that won’t be covered by current jab. Many boosters will be needed for these. . First one being worked on probably in 3 months. I have read expect 4 shots a year. Hahaha. And the kicker is, if not uo to date on booster, not fully vaxxed. You would be a price of crap like me. Hahaha.

          1. “Don’t find any” ??? Gee- kinda like the dozens of times I asked you to “reference” the reasoning behind the OHA changing ILI to CLI ??? You mean like that ??? I mean really… where did the flu go ??? Odd considering a child died from the flu this season- but you didn’t report it !

    3. From your link.
      “Viral loads of breakthrough Delta variant infection cases were 251 times higher than those of cases infected with old strains detected between March-April 2020.” Note the 251 times higher refers to delta vs prior strains not that vaccinated carry higher loads.

  7. Seems to me that when this all came down, science said they “could” make a vaccine that would stop this virus, so are they now saying that they were wrong, or have they just changed the line in the sand to fit their agenda? Kinda like a Bugs Bunny – Yosemite Sam cartoon. I wonder when Kate is going to cancel the next elections for Governor with an “emergency” decree? But hey, No worries, Creepy Sleepy China joe Obiden will fix everything, just ask Hunter and the ATF!!!!

    1. Does a commanding officer stick to the same battle plan when his troops are being overrun? Strategies change as the situation dictates. Sorry I can’t think of a cartoon scenario that you’d understand better.

      1. Much like Barney L… you are rewarding “hindsight”… not “leadership”. Why are you and Barney L so similar… is it because you sit in the same room at KTVZ ? Just askin !

      1. Barney will be upset saying he wants proof pelosi and her cronies are hypocrites. Surprised haven’t 👀n him or another z worker applauding Kate’s decision saying if we had given a 💩 about others she wouldn’t be doing this

  8. Now all you sheep must bow down to queen Kate because she said so!!!!!! To hell with her and to hell with all you sheeple. Go ahead and do what mommy Kate says be good little sheep and you might get a prize? But I highly doubt it. No need to argue or call me names all you sheep. I’m so over looking at all your dumb ass posts I can’t take it anymore good riddance and to all the not sheeple be safe and live life how you want to these sheeple are all idiots. Good-bye.

  9. Nope. I feel sad for all the sheep that bought into Katie’s lies… Two weeks to flatten the curve, freedom after vax, so on and so on. You voted for her, I hope your freedom is worth it.

    1. Do you remember how this all started?

      On February 26, 2020, President Trump boasted that the coronavirus was about to disappear altogether from the United States. “You have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero,” he insisted.

      And the dominoes began to fall…

      1. It should have disappeared in the summer of 2020… but Demokrat Govs like Cuomo- Newsome- and Brown shut down “outdoor” public gatherings… forcing people “inside” for the virus to mutate and thrive. The science dont lie… you do !

    1. You are spot on ! This all about extending this hoax until the fall of 2022- so the Dems can insist on “mail-in” ballots. The same system that gave Oregon decriminalized meth- heroin- and crack… so how’s that working out ???

  10. Congratulations, you pathetic excuse for a leader. Way to go! You must want our next governor to be a republican. You’ll get your wish you pathetic excuse for a “leader”.

    1. Demokants have been in control for forty years… the economy is destroyed- wildfires create unsafe air quality- crime at record levels- and viruses run amoke… what else they got ?

  11. …and another thing. Whatever happened to contact tracing??? Where are all these folks getting sick at??
    Don’t you think that would be a good thing to report on? I would really like to know.

    1. The same amount of info regarding that is released now as a year-plus ago – a weekly outbreak report OHA includes each week and we link to, but only cases over 5 in workplaces, other limitations. Most individual info not released due to patient privacy and confidentiality (HIPAA)

                1. Pick on me? Fine. Pick on others in bullying/harassment fashion under TOS? You may be talking to yourself (well, just to me). And you won’t be alone, despite your victim complex.
                  Some consider your treatment of ME “near criminal in nature.” Nah, it’s just you being… you.

  12. NO DAMNIT!!! Enough already! Its time to take a stand! The audacity and hypocrisy of every shred of this facade is beyond George Orwells wildest dreams and its so heartbreaking to see so many people being misled and cheering for tyranny. Its all about divide and conquer; vaxed vs unvaxed, republican vs democrat and its all being sold and packaged by fear and everyone is eating it up.
    I am a business owner, I will not abide. This is beyond unamerican it is antifreedom, it is antidreams, it is pushing everyone under the thumb of antihumanism. Vote all these bums out.

    1. Ugh. Unamerican? Really. How so? How is this unamerican? I really want to know. Trumps face on an American flag is unamerican. It’s also a desecration of the flag. Wearing a mask is unamerican? Give me a break. The GOP is unamerican! Take a look at New Zealand. They are living normal lives thanks to a citizenry that accepts that sacrifice is sometimes needed. Half of Americans are needlessly selfish saying they have a right somehow to spread disease and kill innocent Americans. Give me a break. If you voted for the orange peel you get what you deserve

      1. “Take a look at New Zealand” ??? I did ! they have 26 times more deaths related to the Bat than Samoa, Micronesia, Vanuatu, or even the Solomon Islands ! What’s yer point again ???

  13. No wonder VP said to start buying Christmas gifts now, the D’s are shutting us down. * U Kate. I am vaccinated this I am done with masks. Choosing to live life. Is no one ever supposed to get sick again.

  14. whew! sure glad homeless people dont have to wear masks outdoors. i guess i will just identify as a homeless person from here on out…. thanks for the loophole kate!

  15. This one time at covid camp there were a bunch of sheeple outside in masks all lined up getting the jab low and behold by the end of covid camp they were all sick and the flock still wanders following their shepherd off the spike protein cliff!

  16. I’m all for the “fleeting encounters”!! That’s just life in general its a gamble from the time you get up till the time you go to bed you just never know when that gamble will come to an end!!! Breathe in that fresh smokey CO air and live mask free of course!!! WWFD What Would Fauci Do LOL

  17. Hello.

    Hi, table for five, please.

    Sure, and do you guys have your vaccination cards?

    We do, but first can you tell us who our server will be?

    Um, looks like Tom will be your server tonight.

    Great. Can you show us Tom’s vaccination card?

    Um…

    And also, can you provide me with proof that Tom is not a carrier of HIV, Hepatitis A or B, or any other communicable diseases?

    Um…

    Also, we would prefer not to be served by someone who is on or uses recreational drugs such as cocaine, meth, fentanyl, etc., so if you could provide us with Tom’s most recent tox screen, that would be great.

    Um… Let me get the manager for you.

    That would be great, thanks.

    And the moral of this story is…..

    DON’T stick YOUR nose in MY business, and I WON’T stick MINE in YOURS!!!!!!

      1. I don’t have a Facebook account. Copied pasted, yes. But from a less than conservative site. You know, the ones that ban people for having an opinion.
        And yes. If you asked me for proof… I’d ask the same from you. I won’t give it out by force.

  18. Individuals who are actively eating, drinking, or sleeping — as well as individuals living outdoors, such as persons experiencing houselessness;

    These exceptions are just not good enough. People need to be sleeping in their masks in case an intruder enters the house. Also there are several ways to eat and drink through your mask without having to risk removing it and possibly infected someone.

  19. Homeless don’t have to wear masks? Why is it Bend provides trash service and porta potties, but can’t or won’t provide masks. It seems like they are the ones in close proximity to one another and will be spreading the disease, then filling the ICU at taxpayer expense.

  20. Well stated think for yourself, they would have us do that if they could, sleep with masks on, their health is our responsibility, their motto:
    Shut your mouth and put the mask on,and get the jab or you will kill us all.
    These are the same people coming out of Costco with toilet paper at the start of their pandemic.

  21. We’ll, good thing I live in Bend and am covered in moon dust from our trails most of the time. I can easily pass as being houseless, and I may very well be that soon, if our governor keeps doing her best to tank our economy with this nonsense instead of paying attention to real issues like affordable housing and economic growth. So no mask for me – I’m soon-to-be houseless so can do all the drugs I want, have a blatant disregard for public health, and poop on your lawn without consequence! What an awesome, Progressive dream this state is!

  22. I will proudly NOT wear my mask anywhere I choose, especially outdoors, and I shall make a spectacle indoors when challenged to wear the face diaper

    1. Stand strong… I will also not wear a mask. I am boycotting stores that track you down and have the Mask Police tell you to mask up or else. The list is growing. Social Media will spread the word..

  23. 35 posts yesterday by the fatheadedchild- not a single link- 80% personal attacks- 5 instances where other posters asked that an FC post be removed… What says the Mod ?

    1. I evolve. You apparently cannot. You have posted 8,000 comments here since late 2019 when the platform launched, FYI. Too few were held to the clear standard in our company moderation policy. No longer. Stomp your feet, I don’t care. It’s being applied equally, and if more or fewer of your and many others’ comments show up, it’ll be in consultation with the people I work for. Some people can change for the better.

      1. You “evolve” ??? Nope- you been forced to address your lack of consistency and inner bias. You are now claiming to toe the line on bullying- yet allow the usual suspects to run amok.

        1. Oh thanks! That reminds me! I’ll probably let you continue to violate TOS with SOME (not all) of your harassment, bullying and personal attacks on ME. Consider me “the exception that proves the rule.” I have a thick skin and can take it, brush it off and give it all the attention and credence it/you deserve (none). Others should be spared to a greater degree than in the past. FYI, it’s not “never say a negative word about anybody.” You’d fail a LOT, as would some other “regulars.” It’s more… obvious when it goes too far into the realm of offensive.
          And yes, you can take all the credit for a tougher line. You will NOT be the only one affected. As I told you, some attacks on YOU have also not been allowed. (No, not giving you names for your “investigation.”)
          I’ll still defend myself when necessary – and occasionally present facts when people present something not factual or from a legitimate source on the vital COVID-19 issue. Consider it the moderator’s prerogative.

          1. Stop with the “Me” Oh Whiny One ! You chose to enter the forum- the court- the lions den… now you want special treatment ? Hogwash- go ahead- take yer ball and leave- or learn how the game is played- so far yer gettin’ yer tail kicked by double digits…. Wah !!!

            1. Hell no, lay into ME. Spare the others, and thus spare me all those proper deletions. You don’t make the rules here, nor do I, really – the COMPANY I work for does, and I’m just going to step up and enforce them a bit better.
              If anyone was REALLY keeping score, I know how it would go, and … well, why dontcha go take those ‘facts’ and attitude to a subreddit, see how fast your downvotes accumulate and you “disappear” from view.
              Wah indeed.

              1. “I’m just going to step up and enforce them a bit better.” GOOD ! Start with eliminating personal attacks… don’t worry ’bout me… I’ve proven time and time again to be a counter puncher. You complete that simple act of banning personal attacks- this place will shape up nicely- and your gaggle of loudmouths will have to go elsewhere… all GOOD !

    2. My suggestion to you BGHW – grow up. Act like the man you want to be. Stop with the toxic bullying and hate you love to toss out. For somebody who claims to be a “working American” under attack – you certainly spend a fair amount of time grumping about – to those who don’t ascribe to your perspective.

  24. Thank god I got to see primus front row and center, without a mask on, and not vaccinated! 🙂 missed that bullet by a day hehe
    No thank you Kate brown! I’ll think for myself

  25. Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America
    Section 1
    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    I do not recognize Kate Brown’s authority. I will not wear a mask outside. For those who criticize those who do not. the simple piece of a sanitary napkin you wear on your face truly does nothing to prevent an airborne virus. If you are so concerned, go out and purchase yourself a P-100 mask and have it fit tested. Then you will be safe. Be sure to strip naked before you enter your house and then immediately shower. Do you see how stupid is?

    And the POKE mandate, will bite Kate Brown in the butt. Many Teachers, School Workers, Firefighters, Nurses, Paramedics and other will not comply and be fired. You will wait longer to see the doc, for an ambulance, for a fire engine, larger class sizes, harder to register at school and all other facets of life here in Oregon. Think I am wacked out, no, simply enlightened and educated. Hold on to your seat, the ride will get crazy…

    1. But this is different some how. To paraphrase the left’s now beloved (when he was bashing Trump) GW Bush, “We have to destroy the constitution to save the constitution.”

    2. The masks do work. I take care of Covid patients every day. I have not Contracted Covid.
      The masks provide protection, but only if worn properly and not on people’s chins. Also requires good hand washing.
      If they didn’t work, the majority of your Emergency department staff would have contracted Covid.
      Covid does not affect everyone the same, but the people who get sick, get very sick. Even the ones who don’t believe masks work.
      Ultimately your health care workers take care of everybody regardless of being vaccinated or unvaccinated. It’s just very frustrating to see people so sick or dying when some of this can be prevented. I wish you could see what we see and why the inconvenience of wearing a mask is so important.
      I hope you are one of the fortunate ones to stay healthy and I don’t see you at my work when you are not able to breathe.

  26. Wake up people. Yesterday, the greatest doctor in the world, only possibly eclipsed by Doctor J or Doctor Jill Biden – perhaps Doctor Doom – was confronted by a reporter who seriously asked what type of mask is the most effective vs. this virus. Fauci totally dismissed the question and said it didn’t matter – blue medical, cloth, N95 – he said “just wear THE MASK”. Yeah, just like that. “Just wear the mask.” Tells you EVERYTHING you need to know about this bs. He knows they don’t do anything to prevent the spread of this virus. It’s ALL ABOUT CONTROL AND COMPLIANCE. You do what you’re told sheep, don’t you dare question your overlords.

  27. Very liberal two-time Bernie Sanders voter here.

    Not gonna do it. I’m the same as the 2nd interviewee. I’ll wear a mask indoors, no problem. Outside I am not going to do it.

  28. Hey folks – FYI – The vaxx does not STOP COVID-19 – it mitigates the risks. Look up the definition of mitigate if that confuses you. It lessens the complications and hospitalizations. Even the yearly flu shot DOES NOT GUARANTEE not contracting the flu. (FACT: Unlike most medicines, which treat or cure diseases, vaccines HELP prevent them).

    As for all of you comments – For both vaxxed and non-vaxxed folks, how would you feel if you passed the Corona Virus onto another, and as a result they were hospitalized of died. Would that fall under the “no big deal”, “fake news”, “Un-American” category or???? Would it be different it was you, a spouse, partner or loved one? Just curious.

    For me, I seriously dislike masks – but I wear one. for me, for those around me, for my co-workers, friends and family and those I do not even know. Am I a sheeple – NOT HARDLY. Am I paranoid – NEVER. But I do care. And if any of you feel compelled to comment negatively, or attack. Have at it. Toxic words do not offend me. Tiresome people – do offend me as does ignorance and lack of caring for the community.

  29. This is a great rule. BUT…..it looks like Kate Brown doesn’t really care about the houseless and she is looking at reducing that population through Covid 19 infections. It could be said that they are at a higher risk already seeing as many have drug and alcohol issues, many are smokers, and don’t have a home to shelter in. Good one Kate. Just get them masks please.

  30. As I wrote on this topic last week with extensive research and calculating the math here are the findings. 1 millimeter is equivalent to .039″, which is just over 1/32″. 1 millimeter is equivalent 1000 microns. .1 micron is equivalent to .0001mm. That’s 1/10,000th of a millimeter. Can you visualize that at all? Well, try slicing a millimeter into 10,000 slices and 1 of those is the smallest Covid19 particle and 5 is the largest.

      1. Clearly you didn’t read any of the links. The masks prevent the droplets from being expelled not the actual virus itself that is in the aerosol form of which we all exhale. Debunked is your comment.

  31. Somehow I clicked “Post Comment” before I could finish.

    The EPA states the following “Public health experts recommend wearing face masks as tools to protect others from breathing potentially infectious particles.” The key words are “recommend” and “to protect others”, a big difference between “mandating” because it DOES work at “protecting you” from getting it.

    EPA: https://www.epa.gov/sciencematters/epa-researchers-test-effectiveness-face-masks-disinfection-methods-against-covid-19.

    Particle size chart: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/10/covid-19-coronavirus-disease-size-compairson-zika-health-air-pollution/.

    Conversion Chart: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=microns+to+millimeters+concersion.

  32. The CDC confirmed today- vaccines weaken by 30% in a few months- breakthrough cases make up another 30% of cases in LA County ! There’s yer dramatic surge- just like I said- from vaxiods and their ignorance !

      1. Here- lemme help ya- from Reuters this morning ! “In addition to the LA County data, the CDC on Tuesday released an update on the HEROES cohort study among healthcare workers that showed a significant drop in vaccine effectiveness among vaccinated frontline workers in eight states who became infected with the coronavirus… Vaccine efficacy during the period of the study when Delta was predominant fell to 66% from 91% prior to the arrival of the Delta variant, according to the report.” OUCH !!!

          1. I agree with your comment Barney, “The VAST majority of those seriously ill or dying are UNvaccinated”, but, those who have died have been living on borrowed time due to their under lying conditions and/or age. As far as those who are under 60, they too were most likely living on borrowed due to their underlying conditions. I’ve only seen one, maybe two cases listed on this site that had no underlying conditions and died. And that was before the vaccine was available. This masking mandate crap will never end as long as the Clown Brown and those who think like her are in charge. People are fed-up with the lies (lack of full disclosure) they are being told and if the Clown tries to extend the mask again (basically, indefinitely) all hell will break loose. Come Feb. 8th, she will try to extend it again and that is when I predict the breaking point will happen. Here’s something I just read the other day, the flu virus is a mutant strain of the Spanish Flu. That’s been over 100 years that virus has been in America.

              1. I never said nor implied ‘they would have died anyway’. I said they are living on borrowed time. It is a medical fact that when you reach 80, or 75 for that matter, your life’s expectancy isn’t much more than 5 to 10 years. When my father hit 80, with an A-fib condition, we were told he could go any day. But he made it to 100. His last two years were not the best.

              2. Underlying conditions is not a death sentence- but they are the single common denominator in 98% of global deaths. I’ve already posted the fact that Heart Disease accounts for twice as many deaths in the US than kovid… that’s your real issue… not a virus with a 98% survival rate in your age group !

          2. Something else to add, if the vaccine wears off in 3 months, give or take, then the only way to beat this is through heard immunity. Which means, everyone will have to be exposed to it. You may live, you may die once infected. Vitamins D, C and Zinc will help combat it once you are infected. For those with underlying conditions who chose not to take better care of their health when they had the opportunity, well, dance with the devil and you will pay the price. For those with underlying conditions who came from a bad gene pool, my heart feels for you and everything humanly available should be provided to you for your protection at no additional cost. On the flip side of that no one should be inconvenienced, indefinitely or long term, by having to ware a mask. The long term effects of masking will be more detrimental than it will be helpful. The problem people have with death isn’t those dying, but those left behind having to deal with the emotional upsets it brings. Death is inevitable and there’s no escaping it. If it’s your time, it’s your time, and you have no control over it.

  33. Pretty clear… those arrogant vaxers and their political supporters- who believed that if 70% of the state was jabbed- All Good ! We now know who has been responsible for the massive surge… the vaccines wear off- breakthrough cases are through the roof ! Thanks Libs- Ya happy now ???

      1. The “Nation” was well aware of the Delta back in March- coming out of Europe and India- Brown opened the State on July 2nd to great fanfare- you telling me she had no idea what was in store ??? Criminal Negligence in the first degree !!!

  34. I been tellin’ Ya for months.. the only way through this is via “herd immunity”… instead of nagging about the chemical cocktail jab… where are the promoters of real science- a real solution ??? C’mon people- stop the hysterics and remove Brown from office- this debacle is killin’ the state !

  35. I learn so much by listening to people who have different opinions than mine. I try to understand their logic, even if it does not make sense to me.
    I respect the fact That not everyone will always agree.
    But what I am having a hard time understanding is why the focus seems to be on resisting any advice that is given to protect most of the population; Unfortunately no matter how hard we try we are still going to lose many more people.
    Asking people to wear a mask, wash their hands, avoid crowds, and get Vaccinated if able to, is the least we can ask to protect those who can not fight this virus.
    It’s the right thing to do.
    Are you listening to your healthcare workers? We are doing the best we can, if more people don’t take this virus seriously, we may also die. We too have families.
    We show up to work everyday, we take care of anyone who needs help, we give all we have.
    We are also ready to return to our normal lives.
    When the time comes to listen to a friend or a stranger’s story of a loved one they lost, will you be able to look them in the eye and say, you did all you could?

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