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Oregon reports 21 more COVID-19 deaths, 2,011 new cases; deaths, cases, hospitalizations fall

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(Update: Adding list of death details)

PORTLAND, Ore. (KTVZ) -- There are 21 new COVID-19 related deaths in Oregon, raising the state’s death toll to 3,771, the Oregon Health Authority reported Wednesday, also issuing a weekly report showing a decline in deaths, cases and hospitalizations.

OHA reported 2,011 new confirmed and presumptive cases of COVID-19 as of 12:01 a.m. Wednesday, bringing the state total to 328,184.

COVID-19 weekly cases, hospitalizations and deaths decline

The Oregon Health Authority’s COVID-19 Weekly Report, released Wednesday, shows decreases in daily cases, hospitalizations and deaths.

OHA reported 11,410 new cases of COVID-19 during the week of Monday, Sept. 20 through Sunday, Sept. 26. That represents a 2.1% decrease from the previous week, despite a 13% increase in testing.

Newly reported cases have now fallen for four consecutive weeks. The incidence of reported COVID-19 continues to be higher in Oregon counties with lower vaccination rates.

There were 512 new COVID-19 hospitalizations, down from 579 last week, which marks a 12% reduction and the third consecutive week of declines.

There were 115 reported COVID-19 related deaths, down from 148 reported the previous week.

There were 159,442 tests for COVID-19 for the week of Sept. 19 through Sept. 25.  The percentage of positive tests was 8.9%, down from 10.5% the previous week.

Wednesday’s COVID-19 Weekly Outbreak Report shows 186 active COVID-19 outbreaks in senior living communities and congregate living settings, with three or more confirmed cases and one or more COVID-19 related deaths.

New Variant Classification added to OHA Daily Data Update and Variant Counts Dashboards

Starting Wednesday, OHA’s COVID-19 Daily Data Update and Variant Counts dashboards will include the Center for Disease Control and Prevention’s new classification of SARS-CoV-2 variants, designated as Variants Being Monitored (VBM).

This classification includes variants previously designated as Variants of Interest (VOIs) or Variants of Concern (VOCs) that are no longer detected or are circulating at very low levels in the U.S., and do not pose a significant or imminent risk to public health in this country.

Variant classification scheme defines four classes of SARS-CoV-2 variants:

There has been some recent movement of variants among classifications, including:

  • Alpha (B.1.1.7, Q.1-Q.8), Beta (B.1.351, B.1.351.2, B.1.351.3), and Gamma (P.1, P.1.1, P.1.2) have been downgraded from Variants of Concern to Variants Being Monitored based on significant and sustained reduction in national and regional proportions.
  • Eta (B.1.525), Iota (B.1.526), Kappa (B.1.617.1) and B.1.617.3 have been downgraded from Variants of Interest to Variants Being Monitored based on significant and sustained reduction in national and regional proportions.
  • Additional Variants Being Monitored include Epsilon (B.1.427 and B.1.429) and Zeta (P.2) based on their previous classification as Variants of Concern or Variants of Interest.

To date, no Variants of High Consequence have been identified in the United States.

COVID-19 hospitalizations

The number of hospitalized patients with COVID-19 across Oregon is 811, which is 11 fewer than Tuesday. There are 235 COVID-19 patients in intensive care unit (ICU) beds, which is two fewer than Tuesday.

There are 56 available adult ICU beds out of 631 total (9% availability) and 345 available adult non-ICU beds out of 4,218 (8% availability).

9/29/2021 Available Beds (and Percentage of Staffed Beds Available)
 StatewideRegion 1Region 2Region 3Region 5Region 6Region 7Region 9
Adult ICU beds available56 (9%)22 (6%)9 (11%)9 (21%)3 (5%)3 (30%)5 (10%)5 (20%)
Adult non-ICU beds available345 (8%)78 (4%)64 (10%)79 (13%)34 (8%)10 (20%)31 (8%)49 (43%)

St. Charles Bend reported 76 COVID-19 patients early Wednesday, 10 of whom were in the ICU, with seven on ventilators. Eight of the 10 ICU patients were not fully vaccinated, and 58 of the 76 patients were not fully vaccinated.

The total number of patients in hospital beds may fluctuate between report times. The numbers do not reflect admissions per day, nor the length of hospital stay. Staffing limitations are not captured in this data and may further limit bed capacity.

Note: Please do not visit an emergency department for COVID-19 testing, unless you require emergency care for your symptoms.

Emergency departments in Oregon are under significant strain responding to the current surge in COVID-19. You can find a test here.  

If you have a medical condition that doesn’t require emergency care, contact your provider. An urgent care center may also help you get the care you need and will save emergency departments from added strain.  

More information about hospital capacity can be found here.

Vaccinations in Oregon

OHA reported Wednesday that 11,372 new doses of COVID-19 vaccinations were added to the state immunization registry on Tuesday.  Of this total, 6,366 were administered on Tuesday: 1,586 were initial doses, 1,562 were second doses and 133 were third doses. The remaining 5,006 were administered on previous days but were entered into the vaccine registry on Sept. 28.

The seven-day running average is now 7,079 doses per day.

Oregon has now administered 2,976,193 doses of Pfizer Comirnaty, 1,903,293 doses of Moderna and 214,562 doses of Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccines.

As of Wednesday, 2,734,440 people have had at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine and 2,505,080 people have completed a COVID-19 vaccine series.

These data are preliminary and subject to change.

Updated vaccination data are provided on Oregon’s COVID-19 data dashboards and have been updated Wednesday.

Cases and deaths

The new confirmed and presumptive COVID-19 cases reported Wednesday are in the following counties: Baker (24), Benton (32), Clackamas (131), Clatsop (6), Columbia (23), Coos (53), Crook (24), Curry (10), Deschutes 205), Douglas (53), Gilliam (1), Grant (1), Harney (14), Hood River (11), Jackson (135), Jefferson (40), Josephine (16), Klamath (48), Lake (10), Lane (100), Lincoln (46), Linn (95), Malheur (32), Marion (217), Morrow (11), Multnomah (193), Polk (95), Sherman (1), Tillamook (7), Umatilla (80), Union (32), Wallowa (11), Wasco (26), Washington (182) and Yamhill (46)

Oregon’s 3,751st COVID-19 related death is a 58-year-old woman from Douglas County who tested positive on Aug. 30 and died on Sept. 27 at Mercy Medical Center. Presence of underlying conditions is being confirmed.

Oregon’s 3,752nd COVID-19 related death is a 43-year-old man from Douglas County who tested positive on Aug. 30 and died on Sept. 24 at Mercy Medical Center. Presence of underlying conditions is being confirmed.

Oregon’s 3,753rd COVID-19 related death is a 93-year-old woman from Douglas County who tested positive on Aug. 25 and died on Sept. 3 at her residence. She had underlying conditions.

Oregon’s 3,754th COVID-19 related death is a 95-year-old woman from Douglas County who tested positive on Aug. 20 and died on Sept. 8 at her residence. She had underlying conditions.

Oregon’s 3,755th COVID-19 related death is an 83-year-old woman from Douglas County who tested positive on March 1 and died on May 5 at Mercy Medical Center. She had underlying conditions.

Oregon’s 3,756th COVID-19 related death is a 73-year-old man from Clatsop County who tested positive on Aug. 16 and died on Sept. 12. Location of death and presence of underlying conditions are being confirmed.

Oregon’s 3,757th COVID-19 related death is a 63-year-old man from Baker County who tested positive on Sept. 3 and died on Sept. 24 at Boise VA Medical Center. Presence of underlying conditions is being confirmed.

Oregon’s 3,758th COVID-19 related death is a 64-year-old man from Hood River County who tested positive on Sept. 15 and died on Sept. 28 at Providence Hood River Medical Center. He had underlying conditions.

Oregon’s 3,759th COVID-19 related death is a 69-year-old man from Harney County who tested positive on Sept. 5 and died on Sept. 26 at Harney District Hospital. He had underlying conditions.

Oregon’s 3,760th COVID-19 related death is a 47-year-old woman from Grant County who tested positive on Sept. 10 and died on Sept. 28 at St Charles Bend Hospital. She had underlying conditions.

Oregon’s 3,761st COVID-19 related death is a 53-year-old man from Lane County who tested positive on Sept. 13 and died on Sept. 25 at PeaceHealth Sacred Heart Medical Center at Riverbend. He had underlying conditions.

Oregon’s 3,762nd COVID-19 related death is a 60-year-old woman from Lane County who tested positive on Sept. 9 and died on Sept. 25 at PeaceHealth Sacred Heart Medical Center at Riverbend. She had underlying conditions.

Oregon’s 3,763rd COVID-19 related death is a 68-year-old man from Lane County who tested positive on Sept. 7 and died on Sept. 26 at PeaceHealth Sacred Heart Medical Center at Riverbend. He had underlying conditions.

Oregon’s 3,764th COVID-19 related death is an 85-year-old man from Lane County who tested positive on Jan. 22 and died on May 5 at his residence. The death certificate listed COVID-19 disease or SARS-CoV-2 as a cause of death or a significant condition contributing to death. He had underlying conditions.

Oregon’s 3,765th COVID-19 related death is a 69-year-old man from Linn County who first became symptomatic on Sept. 10 and died on Sept. 27 at Albany Hospital. He had underlying conditions.

Oregon’s 3,766th COVID-19 related death is an 85-year-old man from Linn County who tested positive on Sept. 9 and died on Sept. 14 his residence. Presence of underlying conditions is being confirmed.

Oregon’s 3,767th COVID-19 related death is a 76-year-old man from Linn County who tested positive on Sept. 4 and died on Sept. 27 at Good Samaritan Regional Medical Center. Presence of underlying conditions is being confirmed.

Oregon’s 3,768th COVID-19 related death is a 75-year-old man from Malheur County who tested positive on Sept. 19 and died on Sept. 24 at St Luke’s Boise Medical Center. Presence of underlying conditions is being confirmed.

Oregon’s 3,769th COVID-19 related death is a 79-year-old man from Multnomah County who tested positive on July 25 and died on Aug. 31 at Adventist Health Portland. Presence of underlying conditions is being confirmed.

Oregon’s 3,770th COVID-19 related death is a 66-year-old man from Polk County who tested positive on Aug. 22 and died on Sept. 24 at Salem Hospital. Presence of underlying conditions is being confirmed.

Oregon’s 3,771st COVID-19 related death is a 66-year-old man from Tillamook County who tested positive on Sept. 18 and died on Sept. 26 at his residence. Presence of underlying conditions is being confirmed.

Learn more about COVID-19 vaccinations  

To learn more about the COVID-19 vaccine situation in Oregon, visit OHA's webpage (English or Spanish), which has a breakdown of distribution and other information

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76 Comments

  1. 2,011 new confirmed and presumptive cases of COVID-19.
    Is there a stat for how many of these were fully vaccinated? or is it there and I’m just missing it.

    1. Price ~ why does it matter? And “fear porn”. Hmmmm. Interesting terminology. Have you talked to anybody who has recovered from COVID/Delta (vaxxed or not).

      Maybe a tour of the hospital /ICU (think ventilators) would be helpful for you.

  2. The reason so many of us are calling articles like this “fear porn” is because it is totally focused on how many died and how many caught the virus. If the number of survivers was also discussed it would be different.

      1. If it’s so easily available why not included in your news report? Sounds like a lazy reporting to me, We should not have to harvest our own information isn’t that your job?

        1. We post the full OHA release every day, with numerous links to all the other info some people want. I know my job, and your screen name says far more about you than it does me. As does your claim of “lazy reporting.”

        2. I’m still mad that the hospital made me get the Hepatitis B shot instead of just letting me get infected and develop natural immunity while going into liver failure like God intended.

          1. Muslims call it “In sha’Allah (/ɪnˈʃælə/; Arabic: إِنْ شَاءَ ٱللَّٰهُ‎, ʾin šāʾa -llāh Arabic pronunciation: [ʔin ʃaː. ʔa‿ɫ. ɫaːh]), also spelled In shaa Allah, an Arabic language expression meaning “if God wills” or “God willing”. Should you ever find yourself at a vehicle crash site in the ME- my advice is that you drive by or stop to pray- providing medical assistance ‘could” land you in trouble. Yes- it’s a big world- lets all try to be a bit more “tolerant” !

        3. Maybe that’s why we have so many people that believe all the disinformation. They are not capable of searching for the easily obtainable information but must rely on others to do it for them.

          1. A lot of misinformation has come from Dr. Fauci- on masks- he got it wrong- on shutdowns- complete disaster- he still can’t explain why those previously exposed to covid must now get a vaccine. These kinds of “experts” are mucking up this recovery because of all day posters (like what we see here) keep promoting dangerous misinformation.

    1. Century01 you do not know what you are talking about. If the number of survivors would make things different then that is what you would want in hopes of making things look better. Why? Because cheeto head screwed it up from the beginning and you lost. sad.

      1. Not sure who “cheetoh head” is- but last time we all checked- Joey Biden was the Resident in the White House- and since his inauguration- more Oregonians have died of conditions “related” to the virus than under any previous administration. The latest surge of new cases (2500 plus) hit record highs in July and August… where’s the relief- the national strategy- the game plan from the Feds ???

    2. OHA classifies anyone who caught the virus and it’s within 60 days as an “active case”. This is purely arbitrary. Most people recover much sooner than that. Therefore, this means that you can catch covid and recover from it, but if you die within that arbitrary 60 day window, you will be considered an active case and be considered a covid death. This how OHA classifies covid deaths, it’s right in their website.

      1. You know who aren’t considered “active cases” any more? The 695,113 Americans who coincidentally died “while” having Covid-19. I’m sure all those people arbitrarily died “with” Covid-19 just so they could make the hospital a couple extra bucks, right? Do your attempts to bend reality to match your political fantasies not get tiring after a while?

        You guys, please don’t listen to these maga boomers about Covid, or healthcare, or auto repair, or anything of importance! Please consult your local Doctor and ask him or her any questions you have about the disease or the vaccine, and then please, please, follow their advice and get vaccinated. Do your own research, and physically meet with an actual local Doctor and ask that person for their expert advice.

        1. I talk to actual doctors who treat Covid every day. None of them are agreeing with what you believe. They believe that normal healthy people who are under 65 should not get vaccinated. I do not care for Trump and never did but you seem to assume that because I do not believe the constant fear-mongering over Covid that I am a “trumper”. I am not. Therefore it is obvious that you are quick to jump to totally wrong conclusions and your opinion is no more valuable than flipping a coin.

            1. Any doctor speaking with you would immediately know not to trust you to keep what they think to yourself. Maybe they could, but since their ability to practice is dependant on Kate Brown’s dictates, if you were to report what they believe to others it would be obvious to most their careers would be in jeopardy. Some doctors here in Oregon, as well as elsewhere, did go public with what they believed, and look what happened to them. Time will prove those doctors correct, but for now, due to the political and unscientific approach to Covid, they cannot practice. Your view of the Covid issue is obvious and the doctors I know have stated exactly what I just told you as to why they would never open up to you. There is your reason.

              1. So no local (or national?) journalists will “break” that these many, many doctors are against the vaccine?
                My bias … our bias is toward truth, facts and information that can be proven on the record, or accurately reflecting others’ views, hopefully expert opinions. The rest, we have no control over.
                Speaking in general, after decades of doing this work, I’ve found that usually, those who claim the media has an agenda are pushing their own agenda, for a variety of reasons. The “vast conspiracy” stuff got old long before COVID, etc. and social media has fueled it in very tragic ways. Facts and conjecture seem to carry equal weight, and folks only believe what they want to believe that fits into their biases.

              2. My doctor knows me as a patient and strongly recommended I get vaccinated. When I asked he stated he was already vaccinated. I spoke with him yesterday for my yearly medical and it was recommended when Moderna makes boosters available, and I meet their timeline (currently they aren’t needed), that I get the booster because of some lung scaring that happened from reflux. Our newspapers are filled with doctors encouraging vaccination, KTVZ has many interviews with doctors encouraging vaccination, the Oregon Medical Board has started putting doctors under suspension for telling patients to not get vaccinated (if telling patients across the board vs case by case).
                If you were on most other media platforms you would be having your content yanked. And why in the world you are on the comment section arguing and complaining about the daily info put out by the Oregon Health Authority tells the rest of us how little understanding you have of our health care systems, patient care, statistical reporting or common decency. The common decency comment is because you are going after a reporter who can only post directly what is provided from OHA. Educate yourself a little bit.

      2. Active case. Yes. 60 days. You understand these daily stats are of the COVID-19 tests and their results. Period. X many people tested positive for the day. Period. There are areas that show running totals, just like you can see the running total of DEATHS in my county from Covid-19. These are snapshots of statistics.

        What I’m trying to figure out is when people are arguing about these stats and how they are presented, after 18 months of getting this info, if this is just about arguing to be obstinate or maybe for attention, or if people really don’t understand OHA’s daily statistical reporting.
        I don’t usually come back to comments after posting but I will this time. If you truly don’t get it I can try and simplify some of the basic statistical jargon. So let me know. It’s reported 5 days a week and I’m happy to get you explanations Sonora clearer for you. Not joking. Let me know.

    3. Well guess what “Price” there are people who have lost loved ones, mothers, fathers, siblings, spouses & children… Your fear porn comment indicates a lack of caring, compassion, empathy ~ and don’t forget ignorance.

  3. Get out of Oregon for a few days and see how the rest of the country is handling this. Zero masks and clear thinking. Oregon has become such a liberal crap hole. Maybe our recent graduates who don’t get tested to read or write will figure out the solution?

    1. Or we could just look at our neighbor Idaho, who so many want to join, their death rate/million is only 1597 so if we would be like Idaho we would only kill 3000 more people. But you would not have to wear a mask. I know it’s tough.

  4. Barney – once again I did not violet TOS, yet you blocked my comment. I’d ask why, but I know you won’t provide a reason, because that would prove your bias.
    You know and I know, I have never launched personal attacks as many on here do daily. I can only assume my comments are being blocked because you don’t want your audience to know anything outside of what you tell them.

    1. My real job is to help get the best local news we can on the web and on the air. I simply don’t have time to fact-check and prove or disprove unlinked claims (as I’ve done in the past on the “wonders” Ivermectin has done in India.) It is a bias toward facts and against unproven likely misinformation, such as FDA NOT approving Ivermectin for COVID-19.
      We are under close scrutiny for allowing what many call dangerous, some even say deadly unproven or proven-false information.

        1. As I’ve told others, I simply don’t have time to fact-check 100s and 100s of comments a day, and people have sharply criticized us for allowing dangerous misinformation (in some cases – and I’m speaking in general, not your comments) taking verifiable stats and then drawing unproven or inaccurate conclusions from it.

      1. “Wonders” of ivermectin? I’ve provided peer reviewed studies on ivermectin…not just the success in India. BTW in a month you can add Japan to the to the same list as India as certain areas are now using it with great success.
        Why not allow a public discussion? Wouldn’t you agree that an informed public is better equipped to make informed decisions regarding their health?
        You can respond that the FDA hasn’t approved ivermectin for covid…do you know why? I don’t, but I’m curious. We have peer reviewed studies showing the efficacy of ivermectin at both preventing the spread of covid and drastically reducing the symptoms. We also have real world application that further confirms the studies findings.
        On the flip side we have a vaccine that is not preventing the spread covid. We have millions who have had severe reactions to the vaccine and thousands who have died, and were told “it’s just a coincidence.” We have the most vaccinated countries in the world have their hospitals bursting with vaccinated covid patients.
        You’re under close scrutiny…why? Are we still a free republic? Isn’t free speech a first amendment right?
        My comments are facts and can provide sources as I have done in the past. I’d be more concerned about those who are monitoring KTVZ for “approved” comments in the name of “safety.” Do you consider my comment dangerous? I would counter that only allowing certain thought is dangerous, suppressing facts is dangerous, having a controlled media is dangerous.
        I know you’re too busy refute my comment…let your audience do it if you don’t have time.

        1. Free speech has limits. We have Terms of Service. Some want us to shut this system down for allowing unproven, even false statements regarding COVID-19, claiming we are partly responsible for severe outcomes for allowing them..
          We must focus our time, energy and resources on reporting local news, NOT on endless COVID-19 debates in our comment system. Feel free to take your claims elsewhere where they are allowed at length without restrictions. But even the Bend subreddit has rules. How many times do we have to point out that no vaccine is 100% effective but no one has been able to refute that the large majority of hospitalizations/deaths have been among those not vaccinated? Instead you and others change the subject.
          We are not “controlled.” We strive to report FACTS, and the comment system is NOT our main responsibility. Each side is accusing the other of fear-mongering and causing danger to the population.
          I hate deleting comments, but I hate allowing unproven/disputed/refuted claims even more. So if in doubt, on this topic, because I have higher responsibilities, they are deleted.

          1. Thank you for the response. None of my comments are unproven/disputed/refuted…if I need to provide a source to substantiate my claims above them I will do so…better yet I’ll do it below. “Refuting” my comments and peer reviewed studies on ivermectin with “FDA says not approved for covid” does NOT refute the efficacy of ivermectin…it does, however, create a cloud of concern over the FDA.
            I have never refuted the fact the most being hospitalized in the US are the unvaccinated. I stated many times that the vaccinated have reduced symptoms.
            I also point out that natural immunity provides better protection against covid than the vaccine.
            “Dr. Marty Makary, a professor at John Hopkins School of Medicine, during an appearance on The Vince Coglianese Show, said individuals formerly infected with COVID-19 are seven times more likely then vaccinated people to fight off the virus.”
            https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/dr-makary-says-natural-immunity-is-more-effective-then-vaccine-immunity/ar-AAMX3sM
            I am NOT advocating for people to intentionally contract covid. I’m saying that if a person were to contract covid and treated with a proven safe and highly effective ivermectin we could empty our hospitals and get life back to normal.
            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8088823/
            How about symptoms after recovery from acute covid? Ivermectin 100% clears those symptoms as well. Source is link above.
            The point I’m making is, that the focus seems to get everyone vaccinated when in fact that does not stop the spread of covid. The vaccine does lessen the symptoms, but booster shots are needed. When someone gets covid we could instead treat them with the super cheap, decades of proven safety, highly effective ivermectin.

            1. And round and round and round we go…
              https://hub.jhu.edu/2021/09/10/infection-from-covid-vs-vaccines/
              https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0806-vaccination-protection.html
              https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19
              “Lessen the symptoms” as in keeping the large majority of vaccinated people from going into the hospital or even dying? Yep.
              And even the guy you quote appears to back vaccinations, just disputes the timeline between the two doses, his own Twitter:
              “Half the world is unvaxed. They should space the first 2 mRNA vax doses 3 months apart (instead of 3/4 wks)-confers much stronger immunity. Doing so may obviate the need for a booster. The FDA process is too rigid-should adapt w/ new data as I detail here.”
              Some would say I shouldn’t even let you throw that stuff out there. Is refuting it better? I don’t know. I hate deleting comments, still. But I’m doing more of it. I have no choice.
              NO vaccine “stops” the spread of its target. That is only thrown out there by the critics as a red herring. But even you say it “lessens the symptoms.”

              1. Thing is it has now been said over and over again. Get vaccinated you can spread it and still get it, but you will probably mostly stay out of the hospital. So who is it helping oh that’s right yourself nobody else. Because again everyone vaccinated spreads it and can still get it.

                1. Right in your statement, you said get vaccinated and it won’t hit you as hard. But the impacts of those who refuse to get it and end up in the hospital go way beyond that person, to everyone. So I guess it’s “selfish” to urge people to get the shot, so that we can try to get back to some sort of normal. I hope we get back to that, leaving only the blaming and finger-pointing behind.
                  It beats the toxic “other side is evil” divisiveness we see today. That does absolutely no one any good, and is more dangerous than any virus or terrorist.

                2. Data remains clear- those “ending up in the hospital” are the over 65 age group- many of who cannot tolerate the side effects of these vaccines.

              2. You are correct – he does support the vaccine…many doctors do…many do not. The point I was making is that he says natural immunity provides better protection than the vaccine. You provided an equally qualified person who states the opposite – who’s right? A large study out of Israel suggests natural immunity is better.
                I’m curious why some would not want you to let me “throw this stuff out there?” The source is from a John Hopkins University professor. You provided a source from the same university – do those same people not want you throwing that stuff out there?
                I’ve read the FDA article on ivermectin before. There are scientific studies going backing to 2012 showing ivermectin is effective at treating sars-cov and there have been many studies since then further validating ivermectin. The FDA quickly approved the vaccine, but needs to run hundreds of clinical studies lasting years to determine if ivermectin is safe and effective at treating covid?? Weird. We know the long term side effects of ivermectin (none)…can we say the same for the vaccine?

                1. We are witnessing “selective” science around here. As you noted “many” doctors and scientists do not approve of these vaccines.

          2. I’ll admit Barney, I read KTVZ substantially less because of all the false and anti vaccine comments. Not from the news side, but the comments. Their narrative is dangerous and killing people, whether they acknowledge it or not. I certainly would not want your job as you have to deal with us posting and then attacking you if we’ve been inappropriate. Your news station must be under serious pressure around liability because of the statements made in the comment sections. I hope you can stay sane.

            1. Stay?
              😉
              Thanks. Just please do me a favor, if you really do care and appreciate what I do – please stick to facts and try to avoid personal attacks, even if you think they are “well-deserved.” I’m accused of many things, such as “only” allowing one side to attack etc. Not true, but sometimes it’s a struggle. So now I say “offensive” personal attacks, keeping that judgment call in there. If Bendskier complains, for example, I may have to delete your comment, for the last part. Sometimes 95 percent of a comment is good, and I’m not about to start editing them to eliminate the 5 percent that isn’t. Thanks.

              1. You are right. I’ll keep working on not getting hot and going after people. I usually do pretty good, mostly because I don’t respond. But I’m in healthcare and it is beyond my understanding to see a vaccine made political, people making false accusations about treatments (I’m not talking about here just in general) and to know there is this fatigue from our local healthcare workers. I live in the tri-counties but not Deschutes. I know that when our communities go after the healthcare system it’s going to be Crook and Jefferson County that won’t get our hospital positions filled, our clinics won’t get additional doctors or even specialists visits.
                I’m worried that false information will get people killed, ICU visits will cost them their homes or with COVID-19 long haulers. Still not a good enough reasons to make personal statements that in anyway attack or name call.
                Thanks for reminding me Barney.

        2. They also died after drinking water with about the same degree of correlation. I don’t know about other countries but I do know that about 80% of covid patients at St Charles come from the 30% of the unvaccinated population of the area.

          1. I’m missing your your point about deaths from drinking water??
            I won’t dispute the majority of patients at St. Charles are unvaccinated. It would be interesting to see what would happen if doctors where allowed to administer ivermectin.

        3. It’s because there’s a clear stated law that says if there are other treatments for a sickness then the fda can’t approve a vaccine. So if they block the fact of other treatments then they can push the vaccine is the only thing that works

            1. The FDA cannot approve a drug if that drug is NOT better than what is already on the market. I took a top chemist for Glaxo Smith Kline a tour of Mt Bachelor a couple of years ago to show him some of my “hidden” spots. As we were on the chairlifts we had a bit a of time to discuss what he thought about the company he worked for. One thing he brought up about GSK that he though was unethical was when they would have a drug going out of patent coverage they would lie about a new drug they had and claim it was better than the prior version when it was not. They would do this so that they could patent and get the new drug approved even though it was no more effective than the prior drug that was about to lose patent protection. Dr. Donald Light of Harvard also discussed this well known and unethical way that big pharma companies operate everyday. This is not a hidden secret to those of us who have been dealing with big pharma and the FDA for years. There is indeed “Institutional Corruption” in big pharma and the FDA and yet people want to lean on them for the truth. You are being played. It’s all about the love of money. The root of all evil as one man once said.

        4. I’m certain there are things in the works. But FDA approval takes a while. What if Ivermectin actually causes more damage for COVID patients? It’s notable that India no longer recommends off-label use of the drug. Why did that happen?

          In other news, you have zero First Amendment right to post on KTVZ. They could censor you because the moon is full if they wanted. Or any reason. Or for no reason.

          It’s a free country, and they’re free to control their own website as they wish.

          The First Amendment keeps you from going to jail for saying things people in positions of power don’t like. It doesn’t allow you to post to the Internet.

      2. Translation:. The “reputable” source must be from an approved outlet to be considered “proven” data to link on here. Can’t go about getting data from other sources around here that the mainstream media doesn’t link to. What a farce.

        1. Some people still trust imperfect govt. more than what folks throw out on social media that talk of conspiracy and subterfuge. Some folks figure decades, even centuries-old ‘mainstream media,’ with all its flaws, still is more reputable and fact-based than those that seem agenda-driven.
          Farce, indeed.

  5. Hey KTVZ, why don’t you ever say anything positive and list an article based only on the survival rate of covid and how many people have lived? All you post is about death. It’s like you love “fear porn”

    1. Because those who recover are not the issue, those who become seriously ill or pass away are. When those numbers go down, that’s positive news we share as well. We report the same information media outlets around the world do. It’s not news when 10,000 people cross a street safely. It’s news when one doesn’t. We love having “good news” stories, they are welcomed by so many. But that’s not what this is about.

      1. Those numbers should have gone down- like we saw in June of 2021- then for unknown reasons Kate Brown opened the state after she declared 70% vaccination targets had been met- a major mistake- as a massive surge of new cases flooded the state- sending people to the hospitals- ICU’s- and the morgue… and who continues to deny and protect this fact ??? We all know who !

      2. Oh got it! So instead of being a good human Youd rather create fear for views. The fact that you guys will never state the facts how the survival rate is insane to me. Fear mongering at its best.

    1. Agreed ! Lets not forget- According to the CDC and OHA- only 2% of all cases are solely from the virus alone- 74 Oregonians have died- in 18 months.

  6. I have questions about all the Ivermectin talk. If it is effective against COVID, why are the countries where the successful testing has been done, not distributing it to the entire country and not on a regional basis? Why isn’t the poorer countries using it if it is cheap and effective? Why is the WHO, AMA, FDA and Merck against using it to treat COVID? Why aren’t other companies stepping up and producing Ivermectin as Merck no longer holds the rights to the drug? IF you site “follow the money”, Merck, who no longer hold the rights to the drug, would have to pay off the WHO, AMA, FDA and the other companies that can produce the drug. It doesn’t seem to make logical sense. Help me out here please.

    1. I will help you out. I used to believe the FDA and even big pharma were in it for good. Then due to getting involved with medical device design I learned how wrong I was. The FDA is corrupt. Big pharma uses the FDA to protect their market for overpriced non-effective drugs in place of drugs that are cheap and readily available. Read these papers and see if you learn something about it all. These are from Harvard and not some obscure source.

      https://ethics.harvard.edu/person/donald-light

        1. Don’t thank bendski. The link was from 2014 and while accurate about the consequences of introducing new meds it doenoadsress the option of a new vaccine to be used during a global pandemic. Read between the lines. I think Bendski put together a proposal for FDA and it wasn’t approved so now they hate the FDA and claim it’s all about corruption. If they didn’t allow “cheap” drugs then why does the FDA approve all those generic drugs? If it was all about money why would they allow herbal supplements, vitamin supplements and others of their ilk to NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE FDA process in order to be available to the public. This would generate a lot of income for them. Note, big pharmacy owns the majority of the supplement businesses at this time.
          We have to have an agency that works to do over site to protect you and I. Is the FDA perfect, by no means. Are there things I hate about it, sure. But they do the job they are asked to do. Want to go after something bendski, go after big pharma.

    2. I’ll help you too. Just think back a bit about how conservative media touted hydroxychloriqine. What’s it going to hurt? It hurts plenty when not used according to what it was marketed for. Same for ivermectin. Not meant to treat humans for COVID. There are plenty of people that would argue differently. They just can’t handle being wrong. Yes there are instances where the fda was not acting in the interest of a average people but that is in itself an outlier. Conservative media wants you to believe anything but science. Just look at their sources.

      1. So Big Pharma is a corrupt money grabbing machine. The FDA is corrupt and schemes with Big Pharma. Insurance companies are corrupt as well. Hospitals and doctors? Check. Auto mechanics. Not to be trusted. Lawyers… Religions with their pedophiles and private jets to spread the “word of God”. Corrupt. Politicians. Bernie owns three homes and big books deals. Police have the Blue Wall. From KTVZ the Fox News, corrupt AND biased. (Fox News corporations COVID guidelines are more strict then the Federal Government) So why would some You Tuber who wants more money from traffic be above all this? What if the “doctors” who are writing the Ivermectin papers are a bunch of old farts that get together at the Holiday Inn on the second Tuesday and over a pitcher of margaritas and wings, think this paper will be funny as hell! What if the Ivermectin papers were written by the Russians? They are laughing at all the American idiots that end up calling Poison Control. Is it possible? Who has seen anybody in India take Ivermectin? Who knows the doctors that write the papers? But yet, here we are.

        1. Are you questioning the integrity of doctors ? You are not the only one- Former Pfizer VP Yeadon is a doctor- and he has said that the whole vaccine and booster programs are hogwash… Biden (is not a doctor- but a resident of the White House) has exempted his staff- all of congress- the FDA and damn near everyone else in government from the vaccine mandates- so what do these two facts tell you about the big picture ? You decide !

          1. Federal employees have until Nov. 22 to be fully vaccinated in accordance with the president’s new mandate, the Biden administration said Monday. (From Federal News Network, September 13, 2021)

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