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Prineville protesters, counter-protesters voice their views during rally

Black Lives Matter group again draws foes; no arrests reported

PRINEVILLE, Ore. (KTVZ) -- For the third time in recent weeks. Black Lives Matter protesters and counter-protesters faced off in downtown Prineville Saturday afternoon, lining up on opposite sides of Third Street, carrying signs and voicing their views. No arrests were reported.

Concrete barriers lined both sides of the street as a larger police presence, including Prineville and Bend officers, patrolled the street to maintain safety and keep things generally peaceful.

Counter-protesters told NewsChannel 21 they feel Prineville is a welcoming community, and they understand the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis police custody should not have happened.

One woman told me she doesn’t know Prineville to be a community that does not welcome all people.

“I didn’t think we had a problem with that," said Pam Miller. "We have black families, Hispanic families -- we have all kinds of people in our community.

"All of a sudden, they're coming to our community, trying to make us believe that we don’t think black lives matter,” she said.

Siterra Magee and her father came out in support of law enforcement and the community of Prineville.

“Were a community," Magee said. "We go to church together, we go to restaurants together, we support our local businesses. And for them to come here and protest as if we're racist, as if we’re not allowing people to come into our community, is where it's wrong. We want them to know they’re welcome here, but do not ruin our morals.”

Former Prineville mayor Betty Roppe stood side by side with BLM protesters, and she shared with me that she feels everyone has a right to exercise their freedom of speech.

“Personally, I want equality for all," Roppe said. "So I am more than happy to have them here. The protesters across the street from us, across from these people, I think they have a right to their speech, too. I don’t want to see it get violent. I think it needs to be peaceful, and everyone needs to obey the law.”

No arrests were made this week, unlike the four that occurred last Saturday, and while there were some intense arguments, there was considerably less agitation than seen previously.

Many people both in support of Black Lives Matter and against it exercised their right to openly carry firearms.

Redmond resident Kevin Payne said he brought his gun to help keep the peace.

“I know people on both sides that are protesting for the Black Lives Matter, and I know people over here that are counter-protesting," Payne said. "My main job is to just keep the peace and make sure everyone gets along. Hugs, smiles, handshakes -- try to keep the yelling down, try to keep the violence down.”

Overall, the message that many in both groups can agree on "is that what happened to George Floyd was horrible, horrible. It should have never happened," said Jamie Williams.

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      1. Yes, they were highly motivated to give their lives for the right to have themselves enslaved!! You should’ve stayed in school!!!

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      2. Maybe that question can be better worded – How many people of color ‘willingly’ fought behind that flag and how many were sent to fight by their owners in their or their son’s stead?

        1. Not in New York City, as there were over 23 THOUSAND black babies aborted in 2016 alone, which was a lower rate than previous years. More were aborted than born alive. Some years, it’s been as high as 2000 abortions PER MONTH. Were there ever 2000 slaves sold per month?

          And that’s just NYC

        2. Do you not think all lives matter?
          Personally, I don’t believe all lives matter, there are some horrible people out there. But I don’t use a racial filter to make that determination.

    1. There are too many ignorant people who do not know the true meaning of what they deem the confederate flag as yourself, and you twist the meaning to suit your own racist agenda.

      What liberals like you think of when you see see what you call the confederate flag? What message do you think it sends?Racism? Slavery? Hatred? White supremacy, or something worse.

      Now, What is actually on the flag? The color Red? White? Blue? Thirteen stars? Look closer at a picture of what you call the confederate flag. and truly take some time to actually think about what you are seeing. Examine every detail of the flag and it’s design, because the layout of the contents of this flag actually portrays the true message the flag was designed to send.

      For the record, let me enlighten those ignorant of the true meaning of this flag…. Neither the design nor the content have anything to do with racism, slavery, hatred or white supremacy… or anything worse!

      All the COLOR could be removed from this flag, leaving just the outline of the details, and the true message the design is sending could still be determined by anyone with a basic knowledge of history, which many millennial liberals and older liberals lack..

      First of all, this flag is NOT the “Confederate Flag.” It is the “Battle Flag of Northern Virginia.” This design, however, is the one most synonymous with the term, and the one used in various forms on many of the other flags that were flown by the Confederate States. It is also the one most hated by those who are completely and totally ignorant of what it stands for.

      So take another look at a picture of this flag again, and answer this very simple question : Do you see a big letter “X” anywhere on the flag? What if I were to lay that X down on its side? : Do you see that X? The X is formed by the big, blue bands which are outlined with white trim.

      Now take another look at the flag. On this big “X” there are thirteen white stars. Do you know what these thirteen stars represent? They represent the thirteen original, united colonies from which the United States began. Each one of these colonies had its own system of self government… until the start of ‘northern aggression’ when the northern states began trying to usurp authority over the southern states. This was the main cause of the Civil War.

      Point of note : The thirteen stars on this flag appear to lie on the blue X… but in reality, the X lies on the stars, allowing them to shine through.

      Now, I’d like to ask a simple question : Do you remember from your grade-school years how the teachers would sometimes ask you to circle the right answers or picture on a work page, or to put an X on a picture or word or other item that didn’t belong in a group? Heaven knows what millennials are being taught these days! Anyway, that is the same concept this flag is designed around; the stars are laid out in the pattern of an X, and the blue bands are put on the thirteen stars to show that the southern states no longer wanted to be a part of the union with the northern states. In simpler terms, the message of flag’s design is simply this… CROSS US OUT of your Union! The southern states withdrew from the union in a movement called “secession,” which led to the Civil War.

      That is the only message this flag is sending! It is not, contrary to the left liberal distorted beliefs, racist, white supremacists or anything worse. That is all there is to it!
      It is just that simple!

      If this flag actually represented slavery, hatred, white supremacy, or something worse, as so many biased and uneducated people so foolishly believe, then its design would reflect that by incorporating images of those whom it stood against, and there would be a big X on their images.

      But that is NOT what is on this flag! And that is NOT the message this flag sends, except to those ignorant of history! This flag is NOT racist! NEVER has been! NEVER will be!

      And as I stated earlier, all that people need to have to be able to see and understand this obvious truth is a basic knowledge of history… and an ounce of common sense! These are attributes which are so lacking in millennials and other liberals these days. By the way, I am a person of color, and sharing this bit of history lesson with you.

      1. It stand for slavery and could be more racist! it also stands for fighting against the United States if America and NOTHING CAN BE LESS PATRIOTIC THAN FIGHTING AGAINST YOUR COUNTRY! So the flag stands for treason and slavery and so do you!

          1. Tantrum? that’s funny, but you are clueless as usual! My cousin is a retired Colonel and of course graduated from West Point where he studied the Civil War and you know what? his opinion is what I base my comments on and though I’m sure you have a great source, it’s not as good as mine!

        1. Well, by your standards, Chaz or Chop is a country unto itself which has seceded from the US, and is fighting against the United States. Nothing can be less patriotic than fighting against our great Nation, the United States of America, so Chaz stands for communism and slavery and so do you, you racist. It is amazing how we have reverted to segregating people based on color due to the racist liberals who occupy Chaz. Even within Chaz, one can see the segregation going on. Certain areas where they claim only blacks are allowed to go, but not whites, which is racist in itself. As a person of color who experienced racism in the 50s, 60s and part of the 70s, I have not seen racism rear it’s ugly head until the great racial and racist divider Obama came along, and now, the millennials are being indoctrinated with racism and communism.

          1. RossPoldark you are wasting you time trying to educate the do nothing dotards on KTVZ social media page. It truly worse than facebook and twitter. None of them have seen the light of day since high school.

      2. I’m not in favor of banning flags. Nor of pulling down statues or defacing monuments.
        That being said, the civil war was fought over slavery. That’s a fact. And the confederate flag was the banner flown by the pro-slavery factions.
        I support your right to display it, but don’t re-write history to explain yourself. It was designed by southern democrats to rally pro-slavery Americans to take up arms against their country.

          1. “War of Northern Aggression”…
            I haven’t heard it called that since disowning my racist blue blood family in south Texas!
            The very ones who disowned me at the same time, I’ll give them credit for that.
            I dared to date a latina (an Army vet, smart woman), first generation born in America.
            We celebrated our 20th wedding anniversary this year.
            I grew up in the south in the 60’s, I remember some of the segregation. Thank God for my Dad, he taught us kids that skin color didn’t matter, character did. Broke the cycle in a single generation.
            Peddle your lies to the gullible, DT.
            And a great read for you would be Battle Cry of Freedom. It covers pre civil war, the war itself, and post war healing and politics.
            It starts out pretty dry (text book) but is very7 detailed and honest.

      3. Hold my beer.
        The swastika is an ancient symbol that was in use in many different cultures for at least 5,000 years before Adolf Hitler made it the centerpiece of the Nazi flag.
        And your point was what, again?

        1. So we all know the swastika was an ancient symbol usurped by one of the most evil men in history to represent an ideology of hate and bloodshed. As such it is no longer a socially acceptable symbol. In any morale society, a symbol recognized as having association with something as vile as the enslavement and inhumane treatment of another race as well as the over half million Americans who died fighting under the Confederate flag and the Stars and Stripes, should be ostracized and would have been except for the South’s rewriting of its history. The erection of statuary to its “heroes” and the existence of Jim Crow ideology helped to transform the South’s treason into its “glory” and thus an attempt to rewrite history has been successful for over a century. Hopefully, that rewrite is soon to be edited and corrected.

      4. The phrase “can’t see the forest for the trees” comes to mind. Although parts of what you say are true, absent other important historical context, your conclusions themselves are generally wrong, even historically. Regardless, the flag’s resurgent use is not confined to any historical meaning. Today, it’s a symbol of racism and oppression, maybe even more so outside the south.

        Bonus points for ignoring the fact that the articles of confederation were abandoned, and the constitution adopted (with the approval of the southern states), precisely to rebalance the allocation of power between the states’ own governments and the national one.

        The random “get off my lawn” vitriol directed at millennials helps to complete the picture.

            1. Actually, it was the symbol of a battle group. And that’s a fact. It wasn’t a symbol of slavery then and it isn’t one now. Di you have any idea how many African countries STILL keep up with the slave trade?

      5. No disrespect but this is obviously your interpretation. For example, the thirteen stars represent the thirteen states of the confederacy not the original thirteen colonies. Earlier versions had less stars. The x across the front was originally designed as St. George’s Cross but changed to an x so as not to represent any religion.

        1. Dang Martha!!!!!! Twice in one week? I’m not saying you’re defending the Stars and Bars…. but i DO think it’s great that you are evidently in the know, and are open about correcting those that are not

        2. No disrespect, but this is obviously your interpretation back at you. No, this is not my interpretation, but the interpretation of my university history professor. We can agree to disagree.

            1. Oh hey, there are many professors who are of like mind, and mine was on the west coast. By the way, with regards to plagiarism, you socialist liberals do it all the time. The only thing you spew from your mouths are what you are indoctrinated with Millennial. Polly want a cracker!!!! LOL

          1. So explain why there were only 12 stars on the first hand sewn version. Maybe you should have learned to question your college professors. Mine admitted that they were always open to proving them wrong. In fact some of them had a tendency toward lowering grades if we resorted to monkey see, monkey do.

      6. Okay, so if the Confederate flag is about southern states withdrawing from the union then why are they flying it in Prinetucky (which is not in a southern state that tried to withdraw from the union)?

      1. For once I agree with this guy. The men who fought under the confederate flag shot at and killed men fighting under the American flag. They were traitors, fighting for the right to own other human beings. And they lost. I will never get why someone would want to associate with losers and traitors. Just fly the American flag! It’s the flag of winners, and liberty, and justice.

          1. No, they weren’t. Congress did pass laws regarding caring for gravesites of Confederate soldiers, but did not make them “veterans.” There was a lot of politically-motivated forgiveness of their treason and rebellion in the years following the war, but that didn’t make them veterans, either. Not sure why it would matter for this discussion, anyway, but maybe you’ll look into and treat the other claims you’re fed by bigots with a little more skepticism.

            1. Actually, it was the symbol of a battle group. And that’s a fact. It wasn’t a symbol of slavery then and it isn’t one now. Di you have any idea how many African countries STILL keep up with the slave trade? The treasonous one was Lincoln. How is it that your kind never observe that fact?

              1. I’m sure you’ve gone to wiikipedia and become an expert, but I spent a few years living in the south (granted, decades ago) and know first-hand that it has long had meanings while beyond having been the symbol of the Army of Northern Virginia.

                Even if you think that people who show up at a Black Lives Matter protest waving confederate flags aren’t trying to communicate the widespread association with oppression and an era of legalized slavery, they’re trying to communicate what, exactly? That they plan to rebel and commit treason? I’m open to hearing their claims, but are you familiar with Occam’s razor?

            1. It’s unbelievable to me that our government is letting the destruction of public property take place in front of our very own eyes. Kate Brown had LaVoy murdered out at the Refuge, but says nothing about them tearing down the statue of my grandmother and Eugene where the statue of George Washington

            1. TREHGR you best check this for plagerism PC and social etiquette police.

              Jsilver2th: This is old new, but Snope was exposed as pandering to the left, and also as per this website Snopes was exposed as not incapable of discerning facts from lies or real news from fake news. Snopes has been beneficial when investigating a news story that has liberal views or leanings. If the news is left leaning, it is rare if Snopes will discredit the information, but it is very typical to find many faults if the information is of conservative in nature.

              https://wakeup-world.com/2017/01/12/out-snoped-snopes-outed-as-unfit-to-discern-fake-news-from-truth/

              1. It looks like you actually wrote this drivel yourself. For most people this would just be a given, but it’s a rare event for you and I thought we should celebrate it.
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                We congratulate you, sir. Well done.
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                No one will ever click on your links. Knowing you, it could be a redirect to some offshore full of malware. Nobody cares to read opinions you were unable to gestate yourself. Have a take, don’t suck. Keep it short and informative/entertaining. Otherwise, piss off.

  1. WeeEeEEEeehaaww! Git ‘eem, boys! There were quite a few more Confederate flags than shown in this video – good ol’ Prinetuck showing their true colors! The ‘billies get all butthurt when you call ‘em redneck, racist, and inbred but then they go live up to their own stereotype on camera.

    1. liberal physician heal thyself. Liberals who live in class houses should not throw stones. You too live up to your own ignorant hill-billy..we believe in peace and none violence and we will kill and vandalize for it” stereotypes.

    1. “How small do you have to be, to feel the need to pack all your guns and go waste a day yelling at protestors.”

      So should the residents of Smallville be more like their violent gun toting liberal left wing neighbors in Seattle- who suffered their first gun shot fatality in the newly created country of CHOP- I guess it was just a block party gone wrong !

      1. “More tests created more cases so I said we’ve got to slow down the testing” Big fat lyin donnie
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        Golf and a whore anyone!!! trump / putin 2020!!! HELSINKI PROUD!!!!

                1. “Ah but at least Fester is amusing.”

                  What ? In a “lets pull wings off the butterfly” kinda way ?

                  Cmon Martha- don’t you recognize a mental illness when you see one ?

            1. OK Barney… “Otherwise, each post is based on its own merits or issues.”

              The what exactly does corona testing- Golf and a Whore- Putin 2020 have anything to do with “Prineville Counter Protesters” voicing their views in a rally ???

              Clearly off topic- should be removed and the writer should be asked to move it to a more appropriate story line. Make the request once- remind a second time- just delete the third-

              Baseball Baby- three strikes yer out !

              1. FACT: We’ve never said “off-topic” is a Terms of Service violation – it would bring just another land-mine of endless arguments over judgment calls.
                However, depending on the placement, wording and context, insensitive off-topic posts (such as in a fatal crash, etc.) may be deleted.

    2. “Many people both in support of Black Lives Matter and against it exercised their right to openly carry firearms”.
      Ask the blm crowd that. They’re the ones murdering, burning and looting.

        1. I don’t follow breitbart. Give me your most trusted, go-to news source and I’ll pull links from it showing the violence perpetrated by blm. But you already know that, don’t you?
          Maybe YOU should broaden your horizons and listen to how black conservatives are reacting to the riots. Oops, I bet the “news” you listen to censors those voices.
          Oh, that’s right. You side with people who believe that black conservatives are Uncle Toms and sell-outs to their own race.
          Funny in a way, because Malcolm X believed that a black person who voted democrat was the sellout.

          1. “We won’t organize any black man to be a Democrat or a Republican because both of them have sold us out. Both of them have sold us out; both parties have sold us out. Both parties are racist, and the Democratic Party is more racist than the Republican Party.” Malcom X

            1. Yep. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a fan of all his views, he opted for more of a violent approach…
              But there was power in his words when he said at least republicans were honest with their bigotry.
              Mr X did not care for white people in general (given the climate in the 50’s and 60’s I can understand the sentiment), but despised democrats of every color. And equally hated the culture of need inspired by democrats.
              He was an amazing speaker, I never get tired of listening to him.
              https://youtu.be/XkgA2rUAY-o

        2. So you think that the 12 people shot in Minneapolis last night is fake news? How about the blacks being shot up in Seattle? More fake news? I don’t think I’ve seen you say a single word about 40 cops being murdered since this BLM protest all started across the country. Fake news as well?

          1. Wow, I hadn’t seen that. That’s really terrible.
            The Fox story I read didn’t mention any of the victims being black, or if the shooter was BLM or white or black, so what was your point in bringing it up?
            To me, it seems a good reason for us to talk about responsible gun ownership, and common sense gun reforms. Care to address that?

          2. Oh hey, DT… was unable to find any info on 40 cops being murdered since blm protests started. Can we please get a link from a reputable source for that bogus claim? Otherwise, yes… totally fake news.

  2. It really is best to just let people talk. The young lady who said “We want them to know they’re welcome here, but do not ruin our morals” as a guy stands at the barricade holding up his confederate flag and several others walked around with rifles in response to people coming to town and publicly declaring that black lives matter.
    .
    These protests have been really important. America has some issues that we need to work through, and sometimes you just have to get in someone’s face and get them to bring that stuff up into the open so we can talk about it.
    .
    Great job to all the BLM protesters. Your courage and effort will move the country forward. You personally helped bend the moral arc of the universe towards justice with your efforts today. Thank you all so much.

    1. Oh please, as a person of color, I will say that racist BLM, the Black Pampers, ANTIFA, La Raza, the racist NAACP, have done nothing but set people of color back, rather than move foward…. no doubt you are one of the very young or millennial or liberal who spreads the typical false democratic propaganda regarding white cops or bad cops killing more blacks than whites. A new study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences demolishes the Democratic narrative regarding race and police shootings, which holds that white officers are engaged in an epidemic of racially biased shootings of black men. It turns out that white officers are no more likely than black or Hispanic officers to shoot black civilians. It is a racial group’s rate of violent crime that determines police shootings, not the race of the officer. The more frequently officers encounter violent suspects from any given racial group, the greater the chance that members of that racial group will be shot by a police officer. In fact, if there is a bias in police shootings after crime rates are taken into account, it is against white civilians, the study found.

      The authors, faculty at Michigan State University and the University of Maryland at College Park, created a database of 917 officer-involved fatal shootings in 2015 from more than 650 police departments. Fifty-five percent of the victims were white, 27 percent were black, and 19 percent were Hispanic, but then no other human lives matter to you except BLM. Between 90 and 95 percent of the civilians shot by officers in 2015 were attacking police or other citizens; 90 percent were armed with a weapon. So-called threat-misperception shootings, in which an officer shoots an unarmed civilian after mistaking a cellphone, say, for a gun, were rare. Earlier studies have also dis-proven the idea that white officers are biased in shooting black citizens. The Black Lives Matter narrative has been impervious to the truth, however. The anti-cop narrative deflects attention away from solving the real criminal-justice problem, which is high rates of black-on-black victimization. Blacks die of homicide at eight times the rate of non-Hispanic whites, overwhelmingly killed not by cops, not by whites, but by other blacks. The Democratic candidates should get their facts straight and address that issue. Until they do, their talk of racial justice will ring hollow……On another note, why do the thousands of Black infants killed through Marget Sanger’s black eugenics not matter to BlM, after all, do not all Black lives matter? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTHH6MeIHak

      1. Not reading any of that. I already know what you’re all about after reading your defense of confederate flags, not interested in any more of your propaganda.

              1. At least the rest of us write our own responses. You’re lazy and have no original thoughts, so you copy/paste hate and lies here in the hopes that the alt-right members of ktvz’s comment forum will think you came up with these ideas yourself and tell you how cool you are. But we all know that you’re a fake who passes off the ideas of others as your own.

                1. and the fact that “our own responses” seem to parrot the media and internet narratives are just coincidences then?

                2. Yes, right, I as a minority and a person of color looking to impress the Alt-Right. With regards to spreading lies, and hate, physician heal thyself. One of my longest post were my own words, and I posted links along with it, but you cannot take the truth, so you refuse to even look at the source, and by the way, it was one of my very early posts Of course information is only true if it comes from MSLSD,Communist National Network,and other lame stream idiot media. Now quickly, go scan one of my longest posts,which was in my own words and with links to source. Wow, where were you when all 7 of these democrats plagiarized? LOL? You only stalk and harass when you know it is someone conservative. You liberals never apply your own convoluted logic to yourselves hypocrite. All you liberals had a hissy fit accusing Melania Trump of Plagiarism, but said nothing of your own liberal leaders plagiarizing.There were several news media who made comment of this, and the primary was Buzzfeed, a liberal news media, from which some of the info was sourced by Breitbart, and also the Dailywire. Here is info on Buzzfeed taken from the left leaning wikipedia.

                  When Democrats do the same — or worse — the political damage tends to be far worse, since a significant proportion of the media can be counted upon to distill the “larger truth” of whatever it was they are trying to say. Even for Democrats, however, excuses do run out.

                  Here are the top 10 most serious cases of Democratic plagiarism, among contemporary political figures:

                  10. Rep. Ami Bera (D-CA). The California doctor and congressman admitted borrowing lines in an op-ed in the Sacramento Bee pushing for fast-track negotiating authority for the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP). Buzzfeed, which made the initial catch, noted that Bera had borrowed heavily from Obama administration talking points and from pro-business sources.

                  9. Sen. John Walsh (D-MT): Walsh retired in 2014 after youthful plagiarism was uncovered. The New York Times reported: “His withdrawal from the race comes about two weeks after The New York Times reported that in 2007 Mr. Walsh plagiarized large sections of the final paper he completed to earn his master’s degree at the prestigious Army War College in Carlisle, Pa.”

                  8. Mary Burke, candidate for WI governor. The Democrats’ 2014 nominee against incumbent Republican Scott Walker was caught by Buzzfeed: “Large portions of Wisconsin Democratic gubernatorial candidate Mary Burke’s jobs plan for Wisconsin appear to be copied directly from the plans of three Democratic candidates who ran for governor in previous election cycles.”

                  7. Susan Wismer, candidate for SD governor. In another catch for Buzzfeed‘s Andrew Kaczynski, South Dakota’s 2014 Democratic nominee was caught borrowing campaign materials — including, ironically, biographical material from Mary Burke of Wisconsin (#8 above), who herself faced plagiarism accusations in the same election cycle, just days before.

                  6. Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA). The liberal firebrand from Harvard, whose claims to Native American ancestry have never been authenticated, contributed several recipes to a cookbook called Pow Wow Chow in the 1980s. In 2012, it emerged that several of those recipes appeared to have been stolen from the New York Times — and were French, not Native American.

                  5. Sen. John Kerry (D-MA). The current Secretary of State faced several accusations of plagiarism during his 2004 presidential campaign, including the claim that he copied several passages in his 2007 book from other sources, and speculation that he may have stolen a campaign trail “memory” from Hillary Clinton’s memoir of the 1992 election.

                  4. Michelle Obama. Though the accusation never found traction in the mainstream media, the aspiring First Lady appeared to have lifted phrases from Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radical — a classic primer on community organizing — and attributed them to her husband. It is conceivable that Obama, an accused plagiarizer himself (see below), passed them off as his own.

                  3. Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE). Biden’s 1988 presidential aspirations were destroyed after it emerged that he borrowed heavily from British Labour Party politician Neal Kinnock — not just Kinnock’s words, but his biographical details. He was also found to have plagiarized in law school. Biden still made it to the top — or near the top — on charm and sheer perseverance.

                  2. Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY). The 2008 and 2016 presidential candidate was accused, both times, of plagiarizing others’ lines — and her own. Most recently, she was accused by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) of stealing his talking points, partly in an effort to convince left-wing voters that there was no distance between the two. Her effort inspired a hashtag: #StealtheBern.

                  1. Barack Obama. The supposedly great orator was caught lifting the major refrain, “Don’t tell me words don’t matter,” from Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, his friend and fellow Harvard Law graduate. The irony of arguing for the importance of words, and then borrowing those words without attribution, was a sign of just how empty so many of those words really were.
                  https://www.breitbart.com/local/2016/07/19/top-10-recent-cases-plagiarizing-democrats/

                3. This had been re-edited, Barney, please remove the previous post.

                  Yes, right. I as a minority and a person of color looking to impress the Alt-Right. With regards to spreading lies, and hate, physician heal thyself. One of my longest post were my own words, and I posted links along with it, but you cannot take the truth, so you refuse to even look at the source, and by the way, it was one of my very early posts. Of course information is only true if it comes from MSLSD,Communist National Network,and other lame stream lying media. Now quickly, go scan one of my longest posts,which was in my own words and with links to source.

                  So Mr proper social etiquette PC police,where were you when all 10 of these democrats plagiarized? LOL? You only stalk and harass when you know it is someone conservative. You liberals never apply your own convoluted logic to yourselves hypocrite. All you liberal all have a hissy fit and accuse conservatives of Plagiarism, but say nothing of your own liberal leaders plagiarizing. There were several news media who made comment of this, and the primary was Buzzfeed, a liberal news media, from which some of the info was sourced by Breitbart, and also the Dailywire.Buzzfeed, according to the liberal leaning Wikipedia and fact check is left leaning.

                  When Democrats plagerize — or worse — the political damage tends to be far worse, since a significant proportion of the media can be counted upon to distill the “larger truth” of whatever it was they are trying to say. Even for Democrats, however, excuses do run out.

                  Here are the top 10 most serious cases of Democratic plagiarism, among contemporary political figures:

                  10. Rep. Ami Bera (D-CA). The California doctor and congressman admitted borrowing lines in an op-ed in the Sacramento Bee pushing for fast-track negotiating authority for the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP). Buzzfeed, which made the initial catch, noted that Bera had borrowed heavily from Obama administration talking points and from pro-business sources.

                  9. Sen. John Walsh (D-MT): Walsh retired in 2014 after youthful plagiarism was uncovered. The New York Times reported: “His withdrawal from the race comes about two weeks after The New York Times reported that in 2007 Mr. Walsh plagiarized large sections of the final paper he completed to earn his master’s degree at the prestigious Army War College in Carlisle, Pa.”

                  8. Mary Burke, candidate for WI governor. The Democrats’ 2014 nominee against incumbent Republican Scott Walker was caught by Buzzfeed: “Large portions of Wisconsin Democratic gubernatorial candidate Mary Burke’s jobs plan for Wisconsin appear to be copied directly from the plans of three Democratic candidates who ran for governor in previous election cycles.”

                  7. Susan Wismer, candidate for SD governor. In another catch for Buzzfeed‘s Andrew Kaczynski, South Dakota’s 2014 Democratic nominee was caught borrowing campaign materials — including, ironically, biographical material from Mary Burke of Wisconsin (#8 above), who herself faced plagiarism accusations in the same election cycle, just days before.

                  6. Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA). The liberal firebrand from Harvard, whose claims to Native American ancestry have never been authenticated, contributed several recipes to a cookbook called Pow Wow Chow in the 1980s. In 2012, it emerged that several of those recipes appeared to have been stolen from the New York Times — and were French, not Native American.

                  5. Sen. John Kerry (D-MA). The current Secretary of State faced several accusations of plagiarism during his 2004 presidential campaign, including the claim that he copied several passages in his 2007 book from other sources, and speculation that he may have stolen a campaign trail “memory” from Hillary Clinton’s memoir of the 1992 election.

                  4. Michelle Obama. Though the accusation never found traction in the mainstream media, the aspiring First Lady appeared to have lifted phrases from Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radical — a classic primer on community organizing — and attributed them to her husband. It is conceivable that Obama, an accused plagiarizer himself (see below), passed them off as his own.

                  3. Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE). Biden’s 1988 presidential aspirations were destroyed after it emerged that he borrowed heavily from British Labour Party politician Neal Kinnock — not just Kinnock’s words, but his biographical details. He was also found to have plagiarized in law school. Biden still made it to the top — or near the top — on charm and sheer perseverance.

                  2. Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY). The 2008 and 2016 presidential candidate was accused, both times, of plagiarizing others’ lines — and her own. Most recently, she was accused by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) of stealing his talking points, partly in an effort to convince left-wing voters that there was no distance between the two. Her effort inspired a hashtag: #StealtheBern.

                  1. Barack Obama. The supposedly great orator was caught lifting the major refrain, “Don’t tell me words don’t matter,” from Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, his friend and fellow Harvard Law graduate. The irony of arguing for the importance of words, and then borrowing those words without attribution, was a sign of just how empty so many of those words really were.
                  https://www.breitbart.com/local/2016/07/19/top-10-recent-cases-plagiarizing-democrats/

            1. Most of us suspect just too much fact for you to digest so you blame the writer – what difference who puts the info in front of you when in reality the problem is you just don’t agree/believe it?

          1. Yep. As Whoopie Goldberg said, she as a liberal does nor go by facts, but by how she feels as most liberals do especially millennials. TreHgr is the epitome of that example. They do not truly research, but are spoon fed the leftist propaganda. They will also tell you that the civil war was fought because of slavery, which is not true. The institution of slavery was not the cause of the war. The tariff, a tax on imported goods, was the sole cause of the war. Northern manufacturers, who had gained political control in northern states, wanted the government to lay heavy taxes on foreign commerce to “protect” their domestic business. The South, however, was dependent on foreign commerce for its prosperity and wanted low tariffs. Political and business leaders on both sides realized that further argument was useless, that the tariff rate depended on the balance of power in Congress between the northern and southern states.

                1. No, it was not fake. She was televised on tv saying it. I watched it with friends. The truth is too much for for you. You are only capable of accepting lies, because you liberals have no moral compass. You use situation ethics.

              1. I suggest you go look to your own democratic politicians who plagiarize, oh but that does not count. Liberals who live in glass houses should not throw stones. You liberals never apply your own convoluted logic to yourselves. LOL

                1. I’m not a democrat, so I don’t take that as directed at me, but I’m also relatively confident that the politicians you’re talking about aren’t posting here, either.

        1. I disagreed with the flag post, but Poldark is spot on with this.
          I don’t believe I’ve ever agreed with anyone 100% of the time, but I don’t discount everything they say because of it. Hell, I despise cnn, but even they get it right on occasion. If you only listen to sources that you never disagree with, you are part of an uninformed, lazy mob.
          Ever listen to Candice Owens? Malcolm X? Ismail White?
          Start slow then work your way up. Ignorance is a reversible condition.

      2. RussPoldark- Interesting choice for a screen name… A fictional British officer that fought against the US Continental Army during the American Revolution and a rapist. How could you choose that name? People may be further interested to know that a lot of the above diatribe is lifted directly without attribution from a commentary by Heather Mac Donald that recently appeared in The National Review on line. https://www.manhattan-institute.org/white-cops-dont-commit-more-shootings Is that legal just to copy someone else’s work and present it like your own? Have a nice day.

        1. I did not acquire my information from the link you have posted. Never post links, because it is pointless with you socialist liberals. You would never go to them or even read them except to point out . You go by what you are spoon feed. On another note, why do you liberals defend criminals, or hold them as angels or icons. Bill Clinton has a major history of rape and sexual abuse of women. His wife Hitlery publicly ridiculed any woman who claimed sexual assault by slick Willy, and yet when it is politically expedient for her to defend a woman who claims rape, then that woman deserves to be heard. The list is lengthy of the criminals liberals defend. Why do liberals like you hold George Floyd as an angel Choir boy when Floyd has a criminal record, of which one crime is armed robbery, and pointing a gun at a pregnant woman, and also being involved in cocaine/white bag/baggie charges. Let’s look Rayshard Brookes criminal history. He had previously had multiple convictions that include cruelty to children, false imprisonment, battery on a family member, theft, receiving stolen property, criminal interference with government property, and obstruction of a law enforcement officer.

          While I do not agree that George Floyd should have died in that manner, and the police who were involved in his murder should serve prison time, he would not have put himself in such a position, had he not been committing a crime of attempting to pass counterfeit money. The same goes with Rayshard Brookes. I, as a person of color, I have never had a run in with the law, and nor have I ever been involved in drugs or any criminal activity. Oh, and what about Sheldon C. Francis who executed a elderly couple in a cemetery while they were visiting their deceased son.

          As for Poldark, he was the liberal of his time. he was committed to fairness and economic justice based on reciprocity – relationships of give and take and the honoring of contributions to the community. He loathed wilful injustice, not mere income inequality, which is what drove Ross in his crusade against the abuse of power and privilege. Instead of wallowing in a culture of victim-hood, Ross Poldark believed in sacrifice, service and solidarity with the impoverished. He waited neither for the visible hand of the state nor for the invisible hand of the market, but promotes self-government and democratically governing institutions of mutual assistance. Specifically Poldark helps to set up workers’ co-operatives in which members have power and can share in the sacrifices, risks and, indeed, rewards. Sounds very admirable to me. I am so sorry that the single thing you got out of the story was the rape of a fictional character.

          The difference between Poldark and George Floyd and Rayshard Brooks; Poldark is fiction, the other two are not. I hope you get a clue that Poldark is a fictional character.

            1. I never post links to where I glean my sources, because liberals will never look at the links, well, except tattle tails who do it just for the purpose of crying plagiarism and truly not trying to learn from the link. I hope you are as diligent about crying plagiarism when your liberal cohorts do the same, but I doubt it. It does not suit your agenda. Biden is the biggest plagiarist. I bet you would have all kinds of fun tattling on Biden. LOL

              1. That’s why a lot of us keep asking for a source. If you don’t want to be accused of plagiarism or making things up then you had better cite your sources even if it is Breitbart or did you have a professor tell you that wasn’t necessary?

      3. As this has gone on it does appear as though the blm/protestors have ulterior motives and are not at all who they profess to be. There is no substance to their claims of victim hood and are hyping up their supposed pain and suffering to manipulate others to do their bidding. If indeed there is longstanding racism they ought to be able to communicate who, where, and when with evidence. You provide counter facts, which they haven’t addressed when I mention the results of those facts. What I find offensive is that these manipulations abuse the benefits society gives to those who have truly been victimized.

        I agree with you to not consider skin tone when evaluating others actions. As a human being, who just happens to have light colored skin, I am very familiar with others who wish to take advantage of society, even in my own family. These people will drag us all down and have to be prevented from doing so. If one is truly competent, gaming the system out of laziness and entitlement is not acceptable. There are indeed problems in our society and the protestors will only get in the way and wish to parasitize the rest of us.

        As to all the white guilt, it is quite pathetic and is really more about positioning themselves as morally superior to others – if they are really humble, why put their humility on a pedestal for all to see? It’s really not impressive. It is also patronizing to competent people of color.

        1. We are not trying to be humble. We are trying to be an ally.
          You ask for who, where, when evidence of something that happens every day all day, and you see one example after another come across your news feed, but you can’t remember any of it so demand we give you example after example so you can pick each one apart and say ‘oh, he shouldn’t have resisted’, or ‘oh, he had a criminal history’, or ‘oh, the cop feared for his life’, and we’re just not doing that any more. So now we’re dealing with it a little bit louder, which seems to be working because you’re here talking about it with me, and police chiefs are addressing it, and so this is how it had to be. Not humbly, but with compassion as an ally. We’re being the help people need when they yell “Help!”, or at least we’re trying to be that.

            1. We’ll just keep going over this until you understand.
              .
              You are expected to write your own opinions, in your own words.
              If you copy/paste someone else’s writing and pass it off as your own, then you’re a lazy tool.
              My comments are exactly as you stated, my personal opinion written in my own words, so no sources are necessary.
              .
              That’s why this is called a ‘Comments’ section, and not a ‘Plagiarism’ section.
              A comment or opinion can be backed up with a link to a reputable source, but it should only be needed rarely.
              .
              Get it now?

          1. I covered a bit too much in regards to those appearing to be trying to be humble. I am sure there are some in the group who are genuinely humble and are motivated by good intentions. I am quite sure there are those who act in a way to appear humble, but only because it makes them feel good and morally superior to those who don’t crow as loudly. But the ratio of genuine to insincere isn’t known. I have plenty of experience with both ends of the spectrum, so that’s why I don’t automatically “feel sorry” for anyone and try to be their ally. There are too many who cry wolf. Those who have been truly victimized can provide a logical and credible story and should be wholly supported. Those who wish to capitalize on the benefits of being a victim are vague, such as BLM and COBLA. They can’t even explain why they aren’t concerned about black on black violence, if black officers are killed by black civilians or police excessive use of force on those who are white. If they are concerned about “police brutality against black men” which is clearly part of a larger issue of excessive force, then tackle this issue as it is and don’t parse it out. That’s what indicates to me they are using the white cop issue for another purpose – they look to have others prove to them they aren’t racist when it hasn’t been established they are not racist.
            So far as evidence, I believe your point is that there is plenty of evidence of racism against blacks in the media and I should be aware of it. I am aware of the news stories that come out. But the media does a poor job of representing reality. The news stories can certainly point to the possibility of systemic racism, but they are not proof of it. Looking for the best sources I can find, which is the FBI’s Uniform Crime reporting, it appears that as a nation, black men who commit murder are treated similarly to white men. I would assume that arrest rates are driven by crime, not racism, which would be unacceptable. To belabor the point, if someone kills another with intent, gross negligence etc., they should be arrested regardless of race. And that’s what I don’t get about some who are black – they really believe those who are white don’t have any emotional reaction to a death if the victim is black. That’s just incredibly blind of them. They don’t know the difference between subjectivity/opinion and objectivity fact. So, if a person of any skin shade is murdered, it is a horrible thing. But that doesn’t mean I have to march in a protest.
            If BLM or anyone else is going to claim SYSTEMIC racism, then those making the accusation bear the burden of proof for providing SYSTEMIC data. Anecdotal evidence as provided by the media is not credible to make such a determination. BLM/COBLA is claiming terrible problems in Prineville. Well, I haven’t seen any, don’t know of anyone complaining of it and am unaware of any statistics supporting such claims. Even the COBLA leader stated he didn’t have any evidence of police targeting minorities, publicly contradicting his claims of systemic racism, yet no one questions him about his paucity of knowledge. My lack of evidence certainly isn’t evidence of a lack of racism in Prineville, but the lack of evidence is also not my problem. It’s theirs and they won’t address this gaping hole in their claims. So, I can’t be an ally to a problem that doesn’t seem to exist.

            1. Thank God for you, man. Someone who I don’t especially agree with that makes really interesting points with civility. Gotta come back to this, partly because company, and partly because I have to think about what you said for a while. Thank you so much for this.

            2. I’ve read your thoughts a couple times, and given them some thought. I’m much less enamored than I was at first, but still thank you for the effort it took you to lay all that down.
              .
              It was actually your first post that really troubled me after reading it again. In the aggregate it’s a dark tale of denial of the pain and struggles of people of color, and you blame of anyone who would bring up the problem as manipulative. You eloquently and gently lay the blame on people of color as having ulterior motives, unsubstantiated victim hood, abusing society’s benefits, gaming the system, laziness, and being parasites. Oh, and anyone that wants to help is patronizing them. In response: I just fundamentally disagree. You see cheating and laziness, and I see mostly good in people that want to work hard and do the right thing and lead a honest life. I’ve lived all over, and that’s just been my experience.
              .
              The second post was interesting, in that you spent about 3/4 of it talking about if a black man kills someone vs a white man vs police brutality… and I’ll just give you the point, mostly out of just not wanting to research all that junk about murder rates vs convictions any more. I studied your ‘FBI Uniform Crime Reporting’ site for information that “black men who commit murder are treated similarly to white men”, and was completely unable to find that. So you can just have the point. Murder is terrible, hopefully everyone who kills someone is treated equally poorly by the justice system, I’ll assume you’re right and they are.
              .
              The last paragraph was really where I wish you would reconsider. Systemic racism isn’t about murder convictions. It’s about stop and frisk, being pulled over for driving while black, not getting an apartment or a job or a promotion or a good table in a restaurant. It’s about getting followed around Walmart, or being accused of stealing when you return something. It’s people stopping to stare when you walk in a store, or crossing the street so they don’t have to walk by you. It’s about Karen calling the cops when you are grilling dogs at the park, or bird watching, or napping in your dorm. It’s the GI education and VA housing loans going 90% to whites in the 50’s 60’s 70’s along with redlining which made generational wealth among poc virtually non existent now. And then people saying ‘oh, everyone has a fair shot now’ which completely ignores all the ways people of color are so heroic for just having the courage to walk out of the house and navigate a world that is equally dangerous, irritating, and unfair in almost every way you can think. There are so many concrete examples of systemic racism, but just like invisible dark-matter makes up 80% of the universe, there are a million little ways the world is geared to trip up and slow down people of color that aren’t as blatant as broken windows policing, but in many ways are so much more soul crushing.
              .
              That’s just my opinion. It’s why I work to be someone not racist. Thank your for the discussion thus far. Hopefully we continue to give each other ideas to consider as time goes by.

        1. No harm done done, no offense taken.
          It was just a couple of conservative black men telling you that your position is laughable.
          Who has time to listen to conservatives blacks these days, right?

          1. If you have an idea feel free to type it here, but I’m not following your links to listen to someone else. I mean, if that’s how you want this to work I can bombard you with hour long videos to make you watch, but luckily I can think for myself and answer your little questions easily without needing the help of some youtube personality.

          2. Hats off for keeping in civil. Remember that arrests are only the start of the criminal justice system. Even the Congressionally-created, bipartisan US Sentencing Commission continues to find that black men receive harsher sentences than *similarly-situated* white men. See their 2017 report for the most recent update of which I’m aware.

      1. Wasn’t that funny? Liberals have such white guilt, they were trying to get in touch with their black roots by wearing the Kenta cloth. Did you see this Elpolloviejo? ” African Woman Excoriates Democrats for Wearing Kente Clothing of the Ashanti Tribe That Sold Slaves to Europe and the United States” TreHgr, best you do a plagiarism check on this. LOL

        https://davidharrisjr.com/steven/african-woman-excoriates-democrats-for-wearing-kente-clothing-of-the-ashanti-tribe-that-sold-slaves-to-europe-and-the-united-states/

  3. Fricken ignorant Trumpies. Nothing says “I am a funny white hat wearing racist pig” better than showing up to a civil rights protest armed and ready to Intimidate protesters.

    1. Soooo- how many shots were fired ?

      And what about BLM-Antifa in Seattle/CHOP Washington- the home of to the state’s largest Democrat sponsored block party— how many shots ??? Clearly enough to kill one and injure another !!!

      So just exactly who are the “frickin ignorant’s” now ?

      1. Still you.
        Shots fired? Does somebody have to get shot for it to be wrong? And what’s with the Antifa crap? You really do drink down all that kool-aid don’t you? I’ll bet your sad we vote by mail here? You won’t be able to strap on all your camo and swing a couple of assault rifles over your shoulder to go down and intimidate/guard Your local polling station.
        You do know that nothing has been linked to them in even the smallest way? But what has happened is people like you show up and start waving guns around and people have been killed. That has been proven by the FBI.

        1. Unless they have them out and are pointing them at someone you are correct – it is not intimidation. If you are spooked because you see a gun you need more education and less network news.

          1. That’s ridiculous, sorry. It’s a bunch of people who know that on their own, they bring nothing to bear, nothing to consider, so they arm themselves to command a greater degree of compliance with their will. That’s the very essence of intimidation.

    2. And what are ANTIFA and other violent BLM protestors, little choir boy’s and girls? You liberals never apply your own convoluted logic to yourselves.

    3. Please pick up a book once in awhile, BigD.
      The klan was formed by southern democrats. Jim Crow was enacted by democrats. In fact, even the exclusion laws of Oregon were passed under the watch of democrat leadership.
      In the 50’s and 60’s, for example, democrats blocked several civil rights acts and continued to fight for segregation (even on Capitol Hill).
      You sound like the ignorant one… just another racist dem trying to hide your real beliefs.

      1. I love hearing these claims that assign blame to a contemporary group based on a common across hundreds of years, as if the composition of the group has been static. It’s like saying that “Americans” did those things (and killed the natives, enslaved Africans, or whatever horror you want to name), and from that simply laying the blame at the feet of “Americans” today. I’m pretty you reject that line of reasoning, right? So why does it seem more convincing to you when you pick a group to which you (apparently) don’t belong? You’ve shown some willingness to be more thoughtful about these issues than some others that comment here, so I really hope you’ll think about that. I don’t dispute that history has relevance, but for “the side” that spends so much time saying that the past isn’t the present, I find it really strange that you’d think your statement means much.

        1. I’m willing to debate civilly, Eddy, and it sounds like you are too.
          I think the nuts and bolts of what’s going on is the belief that America is systemically racist, an idea I reject completely.
          I believe that systemic racism is out there, and is mainly perpetuated by the democrat party.
          I hope that clarifies my position, I didn’t mean to be ambiguous at all.

          1. I’m really not sure what you mean that you’re sure systemic racism is out there, but you reject the idea that America is systemically racist. I assume you mean other countries? Like TreHgr said upthread, the evidence is all around you. I won’t lead you to any particular source, but one topic I’m familiar with and convinced on is the disparities in sentencing in the criminal justice system. Plenty of info out there for you to examine.

            Do you accept the claim that black Americans as a group are on average worse off than white Americans? Do you think that’s a product (in part) or past discrimination? I understand not wanting to be held personally responsible for “racism,” but with huge disparities in circumstances, I’d like to know what you think the real causes are. A popular answer seems to be “black culture,” but that always makes me wonder how the people who give that answer think “black culture” developed, if not in the context of that past racism. And then from there, how do they not examine the idea that maybe other segments of American culture carry over influences from that same racism?

            1. “Do you accept the claim that black Americans as a group are on average worse off than white Americans?”

              NO !

              What I do accept is the concept of “black victim-hood”… Which we now see playing out in White families nationwide.

              Blacks have had a history of accepting welfare- social programs- reasons to not succeed… Now with Kate Brown’s Executive Orders- white folk here in Oregon get to experience the “benefits” of victim-hood… “I can’t go to work cause Kate closed our businesses- so where’s my Guvment money ? The kids can’t go to school cause Kate closed em… future don’t look good ! Hey Ma- what’s fer supper… whazzat- we gettin’ bags of food from F-Book and Fortis- hope there’s some peanut butter in there !”

              Ya happy now Eddy… whitey is on Kate Brown’s plantation… and I couldn’t tell ya when it’s gonna end… so go away- I gotta get down to 7-Heaven for some Colt45 Malt Liquor !

        1. Yes, it is recorded in numerous sources that the Southern Democrats started the KKK. Who is denying that? IN MY OPINION, what Eddy is saying is that the ideology of either party is not the same as it was 150 years ago or 100 years ago. And that is what seems to be the case for denial on here.

      2. I’m very familiar with the history on this thank you. And while it’s very easy to reflect upon the past in an attempt to gloss over the present it’s you repugs that are the hat holders now and you have been for some time.

    4. Hey asshat…. what do you think the black lives matter people were doing there, armed as well? Many of them don’t even live there so why did they show up if it wasn’t to agitate the rednecks? Your fake outrage is duly noted

    5. Weird because both sides asked me to come as a peacemaker. They cut off the part where I say I am always armed. Oh well me and BLM got along and worked together to keep people in check.

  4. When he signed the Civil Rights bill into law, Lyndon Johnson said: “We believe all men are entitled to the blessings of liberty. Yet millions are being deprived of those blessings … because of the color of their skin. The reasons are deeply embedded in history and tradition and the nature of man. We can understand — without rancor or hatred — how this happened, but it cannot continue. … Our constitution … forbids it. The principles of our freedom forbid it. Morality forbids it. And [now] the law … forbids it.”

    1. Wow, you look to LBJ? Even while he was forced to endorse the civil rights bill, he was wire-tapping Martin Luther King, referred to his black employees as “furniture”, and used racial epithets constantly.

  5. I was born and raised in that town. My Grandfather settled there in the 1800’s. Our family is known by all for all the right reasons. I left there in 1986. What I am seeing in these riots there are NOT the type of people that lived in Prineville back in my day. The type of people that lived in Prineville back in my day were caring and if they didnt like something they just ignored it and moved on. But also the first to offer help to anyone that needed it despite who or what they were. I am so ashamed of Prineville right now that I will no longer say I was born and raised there. What is even more upsetting is that my brother runs the town and he is allowing this crap. I guess he is no better than they are.

    1. I could not be prouder of Prineville. They are still helpful and caring people. Unfortunately their lives were interrupted by a bunch of carpet baggers holding a rally born out of falsehoods. When the useful idiots peek behind the curtain at BLM, they will find that it is built on a foundation of sand.

      1. I love Prineville. I, as a minority and person of color have many friends there, and friends who I associate with based on mutual interest, not ethnic background or color. Racism knows no color, race, ethic or financial standing boundaries. It comes from all walks of life, and at this time, BLM is proving it, as well as other liberals. ALL HUMAN LIVES MATTER.

    2. Your brother runs Prineville?
      And he’s allowing what, free speech? The right to assemble peacefully?
      I’m not a fan of blm, but it sounds like your brother might believe in the Constitution.
      Just a guess, but if your brother runs Prineville he’s probably ashamed of YOU right now.
      Multiple opinions were heard, all parties kept the peace.
      “back in my day were caring and if they didnt like something they just ignored it and moved on”.
      BS. Maybe YOU were afraid to speak your mind, most people (especially founders) were not.
      Good on your ancestors for their legacy, I’m pretty sure your Grandfather would be ashamed of how spineless and weak you’ve become. Just a guess.

  6. No violence. No arrests.

    Peaceful assembly. Dialogue. That’s how it is supposed to be done.

    Two major gatherings in Central Oregon over the weekend. Peaceful.

    Awesome job, everyone!

      1. “Maybe they are looking for another place to set up a CHOP?”

        If they were looking to Prineville- I think the acronym for Prineville Oregon Occupation Protest would be “POOP” !

        Correct me if I’m wrong !!!

    1. Very well said 🙂 I’ll add… There are plenty of traditionally racist and bigoted places for ignorant folks like Kevin to congregate and passionately spread their Covid-denying love to one-another… like MAGA rallies! Be patient snowbird… Covid natural selection will take care of the weak and ignorant ones who are in denial of everyday reality right now. Folks like Kevin are in the land of make believe right now.

      1. Laughing@U LOL, yes, and natural selection will eventually get the ignorant, racist,bigoted congregating liberals, ANTIFA, and BLM protesters. Honestly, you liberals never apply your own logic to yourselves. Double standards much!!!

    2. First off they cut off the part were I explain I always open carry and this Time was no different . Also I was asked by both sides to come and help keep the peace. BLM members and myself kept people peaceful before cops had to get involved. So stop being a ****.

  7. Many of the facets of daily living that a white person takes for granted are things a person of color can’t. In general, Blacks live in poorer neighborhoods where filthy industries are also located, so clean air and water and health effects are concerns. Blacks generally receive education of lesser quality and receive less salary for the same job as a white counterpart. Black women are more likely to die in childbirth and blacks have shorter life expectancies because access to proper food, nutrition and healthcare is an issue. And then there is fearing for your life in what should be a normal interaction with the police, perhaps called by an ignorant, overzealous neighbor who saw the color of your skin and assumed wrongdoing because of it. There is a myriad of other “blessings.” If you don’t believe me, do your own research and check the stats.

    1. You’re so close to understanding!
      Now connect the dots. Who governs those poor neighborhoods? Who blocks alternative choices to education? Who advocates for abortion in black areas to the point that there is now a negative birthrate?
      Face the facts, Trump did more to help black Americans in 3 years than democrats have done in 50 years. I saw an interesting video clip during a black history month event at the white house where a black person thanked Trump, and called him the first black President America has had…
      Why do you suppose that is?

    2. “Many of the facets of daily living that a white person takes for granted are things a person of color can’t.”

      Asian’s have had the same complex history in America as blacks- discrimination- slave labor- second class status… yet they have managed to avoid the pitfalls of gangs- drugs- welfare- and crime… Black Americans should spend more time self reflecting instead of blaming others.

      90% of black deaths are at the hands of other blacks- more than 90% of those deaths involve illegal drugs and guns… 65% of black children are raised without their father…

      “According to the National Fatherhood Initiative, children who live in a fatherless home are, on average, at least two to three times more likely to be poor, to use drugs, to experience educational, health, emotional and behavioral problems, to be victims of child abuse, and to engage in criminal behavior than their peers who live with their married, biological (or adoptive) parents.”

      Sorry… but Whitey can’t fix that !

  8. “Redmond resident Kevin Payne said he brought his gun to help keep the peace.” Hey Kevin, we have police to do that job, thanks. If you don’t think they’re doing a good job then maybe you should protest about that. The real reason you folks bring your guns to protests is to intimidate people who don’t agree with you. Guns are for killing. Any responsible gun owner knows that. Guns are NOT tools to be used for intimidation, especially at a counter-protest. If you have to carry at a protest- conceal it. Period. Don’t flash it around to piss people off. You idiots give the rest of the responsible gun owners a bad image. Just like how the Trump supporters give the republican party a bad image. Kevin- you sir are exactly what’s wrong with our nation right now.

    1. Funny that they cut the part off saying I always carry and this was no special occasion. Also people from both sides asked me to come to the rally because I am very neutral. But yeah I’m the ass. Well me and the BLM and others had a good time stoping fights and calming skirmishes before the cops
      had to arrest folks. Keep the love strong my friend. You sir are the problem jumping to conclusions.

      1. Well then, I stand corrected. Respect to you for keeping the peace on both sides and for coming on here to tell your side. Next time hide the gun.

  9. Betty – how many years were you mayor in Prineville? In all those years have you seen anything specific that was racist in the community? That hasn’t already been taken care of and rectified? If you did why did you not fix the issue from your position as mayor? If you did not – what are you really protesting if you don’t know of any racism in Prineville?

  10. So let’s wrap up this weekend topic with a brief tally of Barney’s Kids- that obnoxious mob of left wing loons that complain about everyone under the sun- as they spew hate- post off topic- make personal attacks all day long… ready for this ?

    The local lefty loudmouth- by far and away-

    TreHgr with 22 posts- most are one-two line attacks on other posters while ignoring the topic.

    Second Place- our local Professor Stupid himself- EddyB- with 9 posts- I told you all early on- give Eddy some time- he’ll bore you to tears with his fake intellect.

    Nevertrumprr takes third- as he was obviously handicapped by the topic- Prineville ! 5 Posts

    Martha also made a run with 5 posts- but pulled a back to back which shoulda been one !

    Tied for the rest- Fester and fatherlesschild (4)-

    Kuya-Neurotic (3)- why even bother ! Youruglyface (2)
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    And you know what… OWEN- (0) !!!

    Time for TreHgr to give it a rest and stop complaining about the volume from other posters.

    1. You actually compiled a tally to prove how little you posted here during a rare break? Wow, you have WAY too much time on your hands. This is a sad “hobby.” At least their posts are usually shorter (and rarely ever dump on the hosts) — (and no, I’m not ABOUT to waste time ‘proving’ it…)

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