Skip to Content

Idaho lawmakers hear pitch to absorb three-fourths of Oregon

Map of proposal that would expand Idaho across much of Oregon's rural areas
Map of proposal that would expand Idaho across much of Oregon's rural areas

BOISE, Idaho (AP) — Idaho lawmakers appeared intrigued but skeptical when pitched a plan to lop off about three-fourths of Oregon and add it to Idaho to create what would be the nation’s third-largest state geographically.

Representatives of a group called Move Oregon’s Border For a Greater Idaho outlined their plan to Idaho lawmakers on Monday.

The Idaho Legislature would have to approve the plan that would expand Idaho's southwestern border to the Pacific Ocean.

Supporters say rural Oregon voters are dominated by liberal urban areas such as Portland, and would rather join conservative Idaho. The Oregon Legislature and the U.S. Congress would also have to sign off.

“There’s a longtime cultural divide as big as the Grand Canyon between northwest Oregon and rural Oregon, and it’s getting larger,” Mike McCarter of La Pine, president of Move Oregon’s Border for a Greater Idaho, told Idaho lawmakers.

“Values of faith, family, independence. That’s what we’re about,” said Mark Simmons, an eastern Oregon rancher and former speaker of the Oregon House of Representatives. “We don’t need the state breathing down our necks all the time, micromanaging our lives and trying to push us into a foreign way of living.”

President Joe Biden easily won Washington, Oregon and California in November, while President Donald Trump carried Idaho with 64%. The Idaho House and Senate each have supermajorities of Republicans.

Read more at:

The Associated Press



  1. Ha Ha….Bend which is full of Californians who moved here to escape the lunatic rulers in CA and now they vote the same way they have in the past. I will move out of Bend to a city that is in the Idaho border area. Bend will turn into Portland soon!

    1. all the descendants of confederate refugees want to huddle up because their morals haven’t changed since then and they can’t handle living in 2021…. boy, there’s something to hoot about

    1. Move *ick 87. Move. You are such a drag on society, move. You hope it happens? You have any clue how difficult it is to radically change the shape of a state and all the other nonsense being proposed by old idiots? Move to South Dakota, nobody cares dude. Move.

        1. is your vision blurred or does “scumbag” not fit into your reality (alternate reality?) of name calling? – why do you think no one pays your whining any heed?

        2. Oh boo-hoo, crybaby girl! What about the other dingaling calling names: scumbag liberals. Don’t call me names, it hurtz my feewlurs! Go wipe yourself.

            1. Unfortunately, the way evolution works, it looks like you’re out of luck. Hang in there though. I’m pretty sure you don’t believe in theories like evolution and gravity. Pretend they’re not real and maybe they’ll go away.

    2. but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress. From the Constitution, it is not happening thankfully.

  2. “I disagree with the way politics in Oregon have moved to the Left. I’m taking my ball and going home.” This is a stupid way to try to change things. If you don’t like the way state-wide politics is trending, work to change peoples attitudes WITHIN THE SYSTEM. Don’t be childish and selfish.

  3. Never going to happen. If the point was to show your displeasure with the government of Oregon then this is a silly way to do it. Try voting if you want to change something. If you don’t get what you want because you are in the minority then try changing peoples minds through an intelligent discussion.
    While the article mentioned that the Idaho legislature has to approve it there is no mention of Oregon’s government obligation. I just can’t imagine they would even discuss it.

  4. This has a 0% chance of happening. 0%. This is a huge waste of time and conversation. If you are unhappy, move. You cannot just rename the place you live and expect it to change into that. That is the dumbest thing I’ve read this month! 0% chance of happening. Never going to happen so take your little militia and go prepare for the government to go to war against you and your “patriot” buddies. This is pathetic.

      1. I’ve been here longer than you, I can guarantee that. There are streets named after my relatives, hush your mouth. You’re really that clueless to think they are just going to reshape the states because a few people think it’s a good plan? How about move to somewhere else on the map? Hmmmm? “Double Tap” hilarious dude bro

      1. I have been to Eastern Oregon..went to a high school that was 10% Japanese, 30% Mexican (before they were called Latinos. Back then, cowboys didn’t like the FFA people (Sods), jocks didn’t like the hippies, nerds just hoped to be left alone. Kind of like you, considering your group superior to others because your familiar with it, and someone living somewhere else must is foreign to your experience and inferior.
        Since we all grew up together since kindergarten, we didn’t notice the race thing…but we hated on the people from Vale.

  5. So basically they are saying they are sick of their life being dictated by others so they are going to try to force people to live in “Greater Idaho” and carry on the way they think we all should and dictate to the rest of “them thar liberals”…HYPOCRITES.

    Move to Idaho…or better yet, Texas!

  6. how bout we give them portland and salem and the west side of bend for a trial period and see how well they do first. actually i think the whole idea is idiotic, californians are going to take over idaho just like they did oregon. we’re already like 2nd class cali citizens here, we got all the suckyness of california without any of the in and out burgers.

  7. EasternOregonCryBaby: We’re going to sign this petition, then vote, then lobby the OR legislature, then lobby the ID legislature, then lobby Congress, and after that, we’ll be a part of Idaho!
    Normal people: Wouldn’t it be easier to just, you know, move to Idaho?
    EOCB: But we like it here.

  8. What people want is to feel like the more conservative residents of what is largely eastern Oregon have a voice that will be heard. If you look at historical voting in Oregon you will see the the rural counties always vote along conservative lines which copies Idaho trends way more than say Portland. It never really matters how the east votes because it is ruled consistently by the Urban areas that are decidedly liberal leftist. We just don’t perceive the world the way that Portlanders do. We really do not like Antifa types and think burning Police headquarters with Police inside is a very serious crime. They call it a peaceful protest. See the difference? We also do not like virtue signaling leftist who think only they can call everyone else racist.

    What Oregon really needs is some form of electoral college that gives a greater voice to Rural Oregonians. People are tired of being ruled by the freakshow in Eugene and Portland. Do not tell me to move cause I have been here way longer than you. Quit changing my state or go back to the valley.

  9. Why would Idaho want Eastern Oregon? What do you bring to the table? Old, poor, uneducated, out of shape whiners who need government subsidies to get through their lives. That’s why I don’t see it happening… Idaho couldn’t afford to take care of them.

    1. So Keyser is that what you think of when you think of rural Oregonians. Ranchers, Farmers, Loggers and all you other blue collar hard working rural Americans do you see what these lefty snobs think about us. I guess he wants, rich, young, indoctrinated leftist who don’t need government, unless of course we forgive their student loans then it is ok. That is not real money they think just the food cards given to rural poor is what bugs them. Leftist are idiots IMO

    2. Really. Why would another State want to take only our poorest and most dependent counties? This even excludes the wealthiest tax base in Central Oregon, Bend. Why would Idaho want this albatross? Bad deal for Idaho taxpayers IMO. And then I wonder how the dudes advocating for this will react when they to pay both State sales tax AND income tax, on top of significantly lower wages. Yup, great way to Own the Libs, by shooting yourself in the foot.

  10. Jonasty,
    Once again I see you’ve set your standards low when you say the regressive state of Oregon has come a long way. Do you ever get to the cesspool Portland? I guess moron with standards as low as yours considers Portland a paradise and Bend will be soon to follow if it continues in the direction it’s going.

  11. I guess these fools didn’t learn from their insurrection at the capitol! Just cause your unhappy doesn’t mean you Can take what you want from the rest of my us.

      1. Yeah we swatted you in the civil war, we swatted twitler, we swatted the insurrection and we swat you again if you try to break the constitution!

        1. Your attempts to rewrite history are futile at best. It was the Republicans that swatted the historically racist Democrats in the civil war…..fact. It was the Republicans that voted in the civil rights act in the 1960’s despite all the racist Democrats attempts to subvert the bill….fact.

  12. I lived in Rural Oregon for decades.
    There are an approximate % of conservatives to typical people in a ratio of 55% to 44% and the other 1% goes to people who want to live in Idaho.
    Just because ten loud mouth goobers can crayon on a map, doesn’t take into account the other 990 people.
    The only division in our neighbors is between those with the VOLUME on the TV ALL THE WAY UP while watching FOX NEWS, vs. Those who get their social programming from an internet device.

  13. I don’t want my border moved, do I get a say? Idaho has tougher labor laws, no breaks, smells of cow piss and has some horrible traffic now that Californians have taken over that state as well. Quit your crying and make it work where is, as is…..

  14. And if Idaho is so conservative, why does Malheur County Oregon sell more weed than any other County in the state? Must be all the Liberal Idahoans buying it all to get through their days…

  15. Gotta be on the lookout fer them “foreign ways of living.”

    “You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the New West. You know…morons.” — Blazing Saddles

  16. I love how a few whiny people feel it is ok to push their own agenda to re-draw the borders of our state. If you don’t like it then move. I am so fed up with a minority of snowflake people complaining that “their” rights are being violated. But they feel so entitled that they can justify trampling the rights of EVERYONE ELSE. What a bunch of selfish, self centered ********.

  17. How about those filthy dirt bags rioting on a nightly basis in Portland. Clearly the dirt bags from ANTIFA and BLM are in the minority so why don’t they move instead of trampling the rights of “EVERYONE ELSE”?

    1. I don’t live in Portland. I live here. Your storyline is tired and overused. Nobody from BLM or those identifying with Antifa are trampling my rights. The crazy boneheads trying to redraw MY state boundaries ARE. Stick with the relevant topics please.

  18. All of these people acting like they are not the ones that are racist. They only want to live in Deschutes County, maybe Crook if they had to. Yet Jefferson county is the cheapest and most beautiful. Nobody stops though, they just drive on through. Go virtue signal somewhere else.

Leave a Reply

Skip to content